Racism

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MystifyingVol

MystifyingVol

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I see the racism charge thrown around these boards by numerous individuals and the mis-use of the word makes me sick. Racism is a beleief that your race is genetically superior to another. The correct charge to lodge against most of these "alleged" incidents that LG is talking about is one of bigotry.

Now, I'm going to level an actual charge of racism. It is my contention that the Democratic party and those that support the expansion of the entitlement state are true racists. In their minds, people that are on entitlement programs are too stupid to stand on their own, a clear cut case of superiority if I ever saw it. The charge against Alan Keyes and other prominent African-American conservative thinkers of being Uncle Tom's is incorrect. The true Uncle Tom's in today's world are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, wanting to keep there fellow African-Americans on the entitlement plantation.

Alan Keyes, Bill Cosby, and others should be considered the Harriet Tubman's of their time.

Don't let them control the language anymore, they are the ones that want EVERYONE sent back to the plantation.
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I don't see why the term "African-American" is used. I'm not european-american because my ancestors were from there.
 
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cwil4 said:
I don't see why the term "African-American" is used. I'm not european-american because my ancestors were from there.
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I had a professor who was very adamant about black people using the term African-American. When he heard it he would ask "what country in Africa?"

Caused some good debates as well as awkward moments.
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We are all Americans, period. If you are small-minded enough to want to make everyone as separate group, based on skin color, then you obviously have deeper issues that need resolving. I will say this much though, there are certain "groups" that make it harder for others in their group to be considered normal, since everything the other part does detracts for that particular group avoiding the stereotyping on a daily basis.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
We are all Americans, period. If you are small-minded enough to want to make everyone as separate group, based on skin color, then you obviously have deeper issues that need resolving. I will say this much though, there are certain "groups" that make it harder for others in their group to be considered normal, since everything the other part does detracts for that particular group avoiding the stereotyping on a daily basis.
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exactly
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I will say this much though, there are certain "groups" that make it harder for others in their group to be considered normal, since everything the other part does detracts for that particular group avoiding the stereotyping on a daily basis.
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Unfortunately, that's probably true of every group.
 
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I am an American American, And I am a minority. Whats that tell ya?
 
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GAVol said:
Unfortunately, that's probably true of every group.
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That's the thing, everyone fighting to just be Americans, are pulled back by idiots of their own group. If we just got rid of the nationality box on a lot of things, over time people would become oblivious to the fact there are so many nationality groups. They would obviously see the difference on the skin, but wouldn't think someone is black, white, yellow, brown, or whatever. If we want to get equal rights for everyone, we have to get rid of barriers. If we just considered everyone American, it would be a spectacular start.
 
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Well here it goes and i'm sure i may get blasted for this but, I can't understand why there is a Miss Black America, Black History month, Black Entertainment TV, etc. If there are 2 equally qualified people putting in for the same job, the minority will be hired because it's required that so much % of workforce by companies are spread out. You don't hear that in sports though. Best player gets the job, doesn't matter what race you are. We are all Americans, doesn't matter what color of skin we have. BTW, I personally do know one true African-American,....and he's white.
 
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You will notice that the Liberal Democrat is the ones who pushed for the hyphenated American. The reason is to make it impossible, over many years, for anyone to identify as an American. Then, they can pit each seperate nationality against one another. As we argue amongst each other, those in power, cease more power, and soon, we are no longer the country of our forefathers.
 
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CountVolcula said:
You will notice that the Liberal Democrat is the ones who pushed for the hyphenated American. The reason is to make it impossible, over many years, for anyone to identify as an American. Then, they can pit each seperate nationality against one another. As we argue amongst each other, those in power, cease more power, and soon, we are no longer the country of our forefathers.
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Like Willy Lynch? (And while you are SPOT ON on 95%, I personally think we already are no longer the country of our Forefathers)
"The tree of liberty MUST be watered by the blood of patriots from time to time.". TJ
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Orangekush423 said:
Like Willy Lynch? (And while you are SPOT ON on 95%, I personally think we already are no longer the country of our Forefathers)
"The tree of liberty MUST be watered by the blood of patriots from time to time.". TJ
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Exactly!! And now the government uses those same principles to enslave us all

There is still some debate, even by black historians, on whether that letter really existed. Regardless, the concepts in the letter are what we are seeing today.

http://www.blackwebportal.com/nuforums/vm.cfm?Forum=4&Topic=922
 
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You are correct. Some say it never happened (the speech). I say the lessons are powerful enough that it happened @ some point. (Whether Willie or not)
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AirVol said:
Well here it goes and i'm sure i may get blasted for this but, I can't understand why there is a Miss Black America, Black History month, Black Entertainment TV, etc. If there are 2 equally qualified people putting in for the same job, the minority will be hired because it's required that so much % of workforce by companies are spread out. You don't hear that in sports though. Best player gets the job, doesn't matter what race you are. We are all Americans, doesn't matter what color of skin we have. BTW, I personally do know one true African-American,....and he's white.
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Well because some people in the 20th century just couldn't figure out how to treat people fairly. Afirmative action and it's effects good or bad, are a part of the lingering effects of slavery and bigotry. It's unfortunate but it's going to take a little longer than 50 years for everyone to let bygones, be bygones.

I'm glad many of you feel that all Americans should be treated fairly. But there are those who want to see the political stylings of the 50's come back in style.

...and we just can't have that.
 
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Crew said:
Well because some people in the 20th century just couldn't figure out how to treat people fairly. Afirmative action and it's effects good or bad, are a part of the lingering effects of slavery and bigotry. It's unfortunate but it's going to take a little longer than 50 years for everyone to let bygones, be bygones.

I'm glad many of you feel that all Americans should be treated fairly. But there are those who want to see the political stylings of the 50's come back in style.

...and we just can't have that.
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So, because a minority of people want to return to the past, we should all be enslaved?

The vast majority of us want to be left alone to live our lives in peace and to prosper as much as our God given talents allow. We don't need the gov't involved.
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MystifyingVol said:
So, because a minority of people want to return to the past, we should all be enslaved?

The vast majority of us want to be left alone to live our lives in peace and to prosper as much as our God given talents allow. We don't need the gov't involved.
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Please don't misuse that term... You can call Obama and the government a lot of things, but this is not slavery...

And look at the vast majority of private schools.. It's all white. That's just an example of why government has to get involved. If the private sector did the ethical thing, all these "minority" laws wouldn't be needed. But the private sector throughout the history of this country has proven it will screw minorities over..
And 50 years isn't enough time to get rid of these laws. Eventually, they should. But there's still a huge gap between educated white males and everybody else that's educated.

This country will be equal when you say to yourself it's not an advantage to be white. If you think blacks are equal with whites as we speak, you're nuts.
 
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thekicker3 said:
Please don't misuse that term... You can call Obama and the government a lot of things, but this is not slavery...

And look at the vast majority of private schools.. It's all white. That's just an example of why government has to get involved. If the private sector did the ethical thing, all these "minority" laws wouldn't be needed. But the private sector throughout the history of this country has proven it will screw minorities over..
And 50 years isn't enough time to get rid of these laws. Eventually, they should. But there's still a huge gap between educated white males and everybody else that's educated.

This country will be equal when you say to yourself it's not an advantage to be white. If you think blacks are equal with whites as we speak, you're nuts.
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You have no clue what you are speaking of. This is one of the most ignorant posts I have ever seen on VN. The fact that you think that a PRIVATE school should be told by the government WHO they should let in, tells me all I need to know about your level of education.
 
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T-TownVol said:
You have no clue what you are speaking of. This is one of the most ignorant posts I have ever seen on VN. The fact that you think that a PRIVATE school should be told by the government WHO they should let in, tells me all I need to know about your level of education.
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It's just an example of how an unregulated private sector overlooks minorities. If schools are like that, why would businesses be any different?
And FYI, I don't think the government should be involved with private schools since there's public schools. But as far as the business private sector, if they can't do what's ethical, than I have no problem with the government telling them what's ethical and then legal.
 
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thekicker3 said:
It's just an example of how the private sector screws people over. If schools are like that, why would businesses be any different?
And FYI, I don't think the government should be involved with private schools since there's public schools. But as far as the business private sector, if they can't do what's ethical, than I have no problem with the government telling them what's ethical and then legal.
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Then, please choose your words more carefully. That is exactly what you said.
Question.....are you going to rely on the government to make sure you get a "fair shake" the rest of your life?
 
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thekicker3 said:
It's just an example of how an unregulated private sector overlooks minorities. If schools are like that, why would businesses be any different?
And FYI, I don't think the government should be involved with private schools since there's public schools. But as far as the business private sector, if they can't do what's ethical, than I have no problem with the government telling them what's ethical and then legal.
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your edit and addition of this word PROVES that you did mean what you said about the government should control the PRIVATE schools
 
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