Racism

[thekicker3]

So your basically saying that the private sector business owners could care less if it hurts their business, as long as they hire white people?

They did it 50 years ago......... And if you look at things that are still unregulated, there's still an overwhelming number of white people in charge.

Most people aren't racists anymore. But it's still not 100 percent fair and we all know that. And until we get there, it has to be regulated.

 

[allvol123]

They did it 50 years ago......... And if you look at things that are still unregulated, there's still an overwhelming number of white people in charge.

Most people aren't racists anymore. But it's still not 100 percent fair and we all know that. And until we get there, it has to be regulated.

No it doesn't. The people with the best talent win. If you are hiring people that are not the best for your business, then you will lose. Pretty simple concept.

 

[thekicker3]

What if the guy or girl interviewing you happens to be a minority?

If the minority is the only option, obviously they'll be hired if they're qualified.

 

[BeecherVol]

They did it 50 years ago......... And if you look at things that are still unregulated, there's still an overwhelming number of white people in charge.

Most people aren't racists anymore. But it's still not 100 percent fair and we all know that. And until we get there, it has to be regulated.

So the government should regulate who can start their own business?
If your white, don't apply for a business license?

 

[thekicker3]

No it doesn't. The people with the best talent win. If you are hiring people that are not the best for your business, then you will lose. Pretty simple concept.

show me something that's unregulated where white people aren't usually the majority?? prove me wrong... i gave you private schools to prove my point.... you do the same.

 

[thekicker3]

So the government should regulate who can start their own business?
If your white, don't apply for a business license?

Nope, they can't do that. But if that business isn't giving fair opportunities to everybody, than the government should be able to have a say.

Laws are in place since something in history happened. If the private sector throughout this country's history hadn't screwed minorities, laws wouldn't be in place.

So essentially were disagreeing on whether or not the playing field is now equal.

 

[thekicker3]

No it doesn't. The people with the best talent win. If you are hiring people that are not the best for your business, then you will lose. Pretty simple concept.

Then why 50 years ago were black people with high qualifications not hired???

Has that changed now? A good deal, I hope. But it's still not an even playing field.

 

[allvol123]

show me something that's unregulated where white people aren't usually the majority?? prove me wrong... i gave you private schools to prove my point.... you do the same.

What is the point of your stupid question? The population is majority white. Additionally, why do I care? I won't the best people in positions regardless of race, sex, religion or whatever. I'll let people like you worry about this nonsense.

 

[MontereyVol]

show me something that's unregulated where white people aren't usually the majority?? prove me wrong... i gave you private schools to prove my point.... you do the same.

So its a numbers game? White people currently are the majority, so yeah they are going to be more of them in the workplace.

 

[arTfuldodger]

Please don't misuse that term... You can call Obama and the government a lot of things, but this is not slavery...

And look at the vast majority of private schools.. It's all white. That's just an example of why government has to get involved.

The govt wants to get rid of private schools.
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[allvol123]

Then why 50 years ago were black people with high qualifications not hired???

Has that changed now? A good deal, I hope. But it's still not an even playing field.

Because 50 years ago blatant racism was acceptable and there weren't many highly qualified minorities because of that.

We have a black president now. Catch up dude.

 

[MontereyVol]

Nope, they can't do that. But if that business isn't giving fair opportunities to everybody, than the government should be able to have a say.

Laws are in place since something in history happened. If the private sector throughout this country's history hadn't screwed minorities, laws wouldn't be in place.

So essentially were disagreeing on whether or not the playing field is now equal.

You are correct, but you are arguing from the wrong side of the fence. Try this, you and your wife, girlfriend, whoever go out and start a new business and come back and tell us which one of you is paying more taxes and is getting more outside help.

 

[BeecherVol]

Nope, they can't do that. But if that business isn't giving fair opportunities to everybody, than the government should be able to have a say.

Laws are in place since something in history happened. If the private sector throughout this country's history hadn't screwed minorities, laws wouldn't be in place.

So essentially were disagreeing on whether or not the playing field is now equal.

So what you are saying is the government should tell me who I can/can't hire?
Should th NBA be regulated into having more white players on the roster?

 

[GahLee]

Due to regulation but still not in 100 percent of cases.

Being white is an advantage still. Not sure how anybody can dispute that.

Not in every case, always going to be exceptions to the rule...I feel like I have been given a fair shake in life thus far but I also feel like that I have not been afforded any advantages either.

A lot of people like to use race a crutch for why they don't have this or haven't accomplished this or that.

I know from seeing it first hand.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Then why 50 years ago were black people with high qualifications not hired???

Has that changed now? A good deal, I hope. But it's still not an even playing field.

It's changed quite a bit, but there are people out there that want more and more and will throw whoever they want under the bus to make sure they get it, and that is where people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson make their living. If they don't persecute their own people and hold them down, then how will they make their money?? There are big groups in minorities that hold their own people down, and people are still more worried about white on whatever racism, than dealing with it in their own ranks. Makes me sick.

 

[GahLee]

They did it 50 years ago......... And if you look at things that are still unregulated, there's still an overwhelming number of white people in charge.

Most people aren't racists anymore. But it's still not 100 percent fair and we all know that. And until we get there, it has to be regulated.

You are aware that white people make up 3/4ths of the American population right?

 

[paul1454]

Then why 50 years ago were black people with high qualifications not hired???

Has that changed now? A good deal, I hope. But it's still not an even playing field.

Because today if you don't hire the most qualified candidate, your competitors will regardless of that person's skin color. The difference now than in the past is that it was socially accepted that black people were not hired in any field that required any sort of skill whatsoever. For this reason, there was no competitive disadvantage to not hiring a qualified minority. Now, there is.

 

[paul1454]

So what you are saying is the government should tell me who I can/can't hire?
Should th NBA be regulated into having more white players on the roster?

I have a feeling this question won't be answered with any sort of legitimacy.

 

[GahLee]

Nope, they can't do that. But if that business isn't giving fair opportunities to everybody, than the government should be able to have a say.

Laws are in place since something in history happened. If the private sector throughout this country's history hadn't screwed minorities, laws wouldn't be in place.

So essentially were disagreeing on whether or not the playing field is now equal.

The problem is, who is saying that all these businesses aren't giving people a fair shake? The guy who doesn't get hired?

C'mon man, your making a huge generalization.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I always try to remind myself, that you put yourself in whatever situation you WANT to put yourself in. If your a trailer trash white guy and love it, then deal with the stereotypes. If your a black guy that's spewing hate towards the white man, then pick up a book and realize people are on an even playing field now. People are always going to be products of their environments, and only they can choose to get out from under their own self-induced oppression. You want out the hood, read a book, go to class, get involved in a good church, and make better life choices for yourself. Then, you break the cycle and can testify that you make your own path, and no government agency can do that for you.

 

[vol_in_ar]

show me something that's unregulated where white people aren't usually the majority?? Prove me wrong... I gave you private schools to prove my point.... You do the same.

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[vol_in_ar]

I always try to remind myself, that you put yourself in whatever situation you WANT to put yourself in. If your a trailer trash white guy and love it, then deal with the stereotypes. If your a black guy that's spewing hate towards the white man, then pick up a book and realize people are on an even playing field now. People are always going to be products of their environments, and only they can choose to get out from under their own self-induced oppression. You want out the hood, read a book, go to class, get involved in a good church, and make better life choices for yourself. Then, you break the cycle and can testify that you make your own path, and no government agency can do that for you.

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[GahLee]

I always try to remind myself, that you put yourself in whatever situation you WANT to put yourself in. If your a trailer trash white guy and love it, then deal with the stereotypes. If your a black guy that's spewing hate towards the white man, then pick up a book and realize people are on an even playing field now. People are always going to be products of their environments, and only they can choose to get out from under their own self-induced oppression. You want out the hood, read a book, go to class, get involved in a good church, and make better life choices for yourself. Then, you break the cycle and can testify that you make your own path, and no government agency can do that for you.

I agree completely...being born into poverty and not having a father have been used as crutches, rather they should be used as motivation.

I think that most of the population is a product of their environment, in good ways and bad ways.

If everyone in your neighborhood is slinging crack or smoking, your chances of doing the same are much higher but that doesn't mean that you can't use your brain and say to yourself that it would be a waste of a life to follow that path.

Life is what you make it.

 

[BeecherVol]

Whats funny is that government regulation makes it fair.

If your talking fair, and equal, does that have to have a percentage put on it? Or should the government sit in on every job interview and decide who is the most qualified?

 

[paul1454]

I agree completely...being born into poverty and not having a father have been used as crutches, rather they should be used as motivation.

I think that most of the population is a product of their environment, in good ways and bad ways.

If everyone in your neighborhood is slinging crack or smoking, your chances of doing the same are much higher but that doesn't mean that you can't use your brain and say to yourself that it would be a waste of a life to follow that path.

Life is what you make it.

Exactly, I had to deal with both growing up. Rather than beating myself up about it, I did everything I could to make a better life for myself and my children. I tried as hard as I could in school, joined the military to pay for college, and always sought to take every opportunity that presented itself. Now, I am in a much better position than my mother ever was, but could have just as easily been in a completely different position (my twin brother took the opposite route, struggled through life, and just moved into a homeless shelter).