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#51
#51
utvolpj said:
I got yelled at by a street preacher at the SECCG in 07 for wearing the wrong headgear. He said I was worshiping the T on my hat and that was against God
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I've heard street preachers yell stuff like that. I told him that changing a lower-case "t" to an upper-case "T" was a petty thing for him to get so worked up about about. He had to stop and think about that one.
 
#52
#52
utvolpj said:
no my point is that making laws about what citizens can/can't wear is wrong IMO. That's all I said but you want to equate that to throwing acid on a woman's face? Ok
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Wrong because you say it is wrong??

On what do you base your opinion?

You see no connection between dress modes
and intimidation by those who promote sharia
law??

How do you intend to deal with that problem,
or do you see it as a nonproblem anyway??
 
#53
#53
utvolpj said:
I got yelled at by a street preacher at the SECCG in 07 for wearing the wrong headgear. He said I was worshiping the T on my hat and that was against God
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IPorange said:
I've heard street preachers yell stuff like that. I told him that changing a lower-case "t" to an upper-case "T" was a petty thing for him to get so worked up about about. He had to stop and think about that one.
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Our preacher wore a UT jersey and hat (With the power T) to a game.

Those you speak of aren't true fans.:)
 
#54
#54
utvolpj said:
from the article
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So you oppose gender equality???

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droski said:
" they cannot conceal their identity in public"

do you really think it's oh so hard to conceal ones identity in public? and also do you really think that dressing head to toe in a hijab is a good way to not draw attention to yourself?

and i agree it is a problem that many radical muslims throw insults at islamic women not wearing proper headgear, but that should be dealt with seperately. There are pleny of muslim women that FREELY chose to wear it and they shouldn't have their rights violated.
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Well there was a homosexual who told me that he publicly sold sexual favors for fifteen years and very rarely did any of the customers think that he nor any of his transvestite sodomite companions weren't females.

The Veil Controversy | The Weekly Standard

Commenting recently on the veil and the Islamists' strategy, Professor Iqbal Al-Gharbi, from the famous Islamic Zaytouna University in Tunis, explained: "The veil is just the tip of the iceberg. Behind the veil, there is the regressive interpretation of the sharia [Koranic law]. There are the three essential inequalities which define this interpretation: inequality between man and woman, between Muslim and non-Muslim, between free man and slave."

"Islam is the solution" is the motto of the Muslim Brotherhood. Instead, the real solution to the veil problem in Europe and in modern countries elsewhere is the defeat of radical Islam, making possible the peaceful integration of normal Muslims into Western societies on Western terms.
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CSpindizzy said:
Basically telling women to focus on French law rather than Sharia law and subsequent punishments. Not sure many of these women are willingly accepting of such religious restrictions. French secular law supersedes Islamic religious laws.

If this were in the US and were challenged by a woman who claimed the desire to wear this for religious reasons, I could see this law overturned. But I would love to see a willing Islamic woman even allowed to challenge a law of her own free will. A cunundrum for Muslims in western societies.
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WE always need to bear in mind that our secular laws here in America supercede islamic sharia law no matter what and to abandon that stance is to invite defeat.

Well our last supreme court appointee is in favor of incorporating sharia law into our current system so who knows what may happen??
 
#56
#56
IPorange said:
I've heard street preachers yell stuff like that. I told him that changing a lower-case "t" to an upper-case "T" was a petty thing for him to get so worked up about about. He had to stop and think about that one.
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I say behead those who insult the gods of football,
ESPECIALLY on game day!!!


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"All men lose when freedom fails, and
good men rot in filty jails.
And those who cried "appease, appease,"
Are hanged (or, in this case, BEHEADED)
by those they sought to please.”

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#57
#57
gsvol said:
Well there was a homosexual who told me that he publicly sold sexual favors for fifteen years and very rarely did any of the customers think that he nor any of his transvestite sodomite companions weren't females.
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relavance?
 
#60
#60
tvolsfan said:
How is it 'gender equality' to forbid women to wear something?
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They are not denied the right to wear it in private.

In public though the vast majority (80%) say they wear it because they are forced to wear it.

It never ceases to amaze me that some people who wouldn't even spit at Christian rights are so enthusiastic about standing up for perceived muslim rights.
 
#61
#61
gsvol said:
They are not denied the right to wear it in private.

In public though the vast majority (80%) say they wear it because they are forced to wear it.

It never ceases to amaze me that some people who wouldn't even spit at Christian rights are so enthusiastic about standing up for perceived muslim rights.
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How the hell does that help anything? So you can only practice your religion in secret?
 
#62
#62
i don't for a minute believe that 80% of women wearing burkas wear it because they are forced to.
 
#65
#65
droski said:
i don't for a minute believe that 80% of women wearing burkas wear it because they are forced to.
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Are you serious? These are typically the families where the men are very dominant and imposing of their will. They are fundamentalist in their view. If given a choice WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS I'd put my money on them choosing NOT to wear them.
 
#66
#66
CSpindizzy said:
Are you serious? These are typically the families where the men are very dominant and imposing of their will. They are fundamentalist in their view. If given a choice WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS I'd put my money on them choosing NOT to wear them.
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these women see their face and skin as a gift to their future husband. please don't think everyone thinks exactly the way you do. you can argue these women are brainwashed from birth or whatever, but please don't argue all of them clearly dont' want to wear it because you don't like it. It's offensive.
 
#67
#67
droski said:
these women see their face and skin as a gift to their future husband. please don't think everyone thinks exactly the way you do. you can argue these women are brainwashed from birth or whatever, but please don't argue all of them clearly dont' want to wear it because you don't like it. It's offensive.
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I really don't know why, but this really seems LGish......

:lolabove:
 
#70
#70
droski said:
these women see their face and skin as a gift to their future husband. please don't think everyone thinks exactly the way you do. you can argue these women are brainwashed from birth or whatever, but please don't argue all of them clearly dont' want to wear it because you don't like it. It's offensive.
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Sorry. I guess many who I've had contact with in my several trips in the Middle East were just fringe minorities. I must have a fringe magnet with the numbers I ran into wishing they could without consequences.

I never said all of them. I said majority. How many have you spoken with? Do you speak from personal firsthand experience? To speak for them and make the claim you did would be offensive. please don't argue for them.
 
#72
#72
CSpindizzy said:
Sorry. I guess many who I've had contact with in my several trips in the Middle East were just fringe minorities. I must have a fringe magnet with the numbers I ran into wishing they could without consequences.

I never said all of them. I said majority. How many have you spoken with? Do you speak from personal firsthand experience? To speak for them and make the claim you did would be offensive. please don't argue for them.
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if you live in iran i'd argue you have a very real concern over not wearing it and getting harrassed. france and the uk are not similar. and yes i know many muslim women. not any who wear the full thing, but enough to know that it's not as cut and dry as others argue.
 
#73
#73
droski said:
if you live in iran i'd argue you have a very real concern over not wearing it and getting harrassed. france and the uk are not similar. and yes i know many muslim women. not any who wear the full thing, but enough to know that it's not as cut and dry as others argue.
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I'm not talking about society harassment. I am talking consequences from their husband. I've been around enough Muslim communities to see women flat out berated and slapped around in public to know many of these women go along to get along. If this happens in public, it happens even more in private. If they had the power of the government on their side, it would be a quite different story.
 
#74
#74
utvolpj said:
so you're ok with the gov't taking away the rights of a minority?
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Not sure what France's constitution says about that. Take that up with them. And if it is like ours, let a woman take this to their judicial process and claim their rights were denied. As I said before, communities who subject women to this dress and behavior do not allow for women to have a political voice. If this community in France then allows a woman to protest through legal and political means, the community proves hypocrisy but the women would then win with a new right.
 
#75
#75
CSpindizzy said:
I'm not talking about society harassment. I am talking consequences from their husband. I've been around enough Muslim communities to see women flat out berated and slapped around in public to know many of these women go along to get along. If this happens in public, it happens even more in private. If they had the power of the government on their side, it would be a quite different story.
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Since some husbands physically abuse their wives, we need a law outlawing man and wife from living together.
 
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