Randy Sanders comments about procure penalties

#51
#51
Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 27, 2005 1:29 PM
Sorry buckshot, but that is what you said in your message.  You implied that it was only the play that was important. And I am saying that it does matter how quickly you get the play in, and it does matter that you have the right personnel in the game. And you question my intelligence?
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As I asked you before, please "QUOTE" me on these things that u claim I have stated. I don't question your overall intelligence. I just question your logic in what makes a football team work.

Football teams are very complex. That's why they have such large coaching staffs. That's why they put in so many hours. That's why they make so much $$.

We both have one thing in common, we want our Vols to win more games, and score more points in the process. I apologize if I said some insensitive things. I just have a good handle on the football world. I LIVE football, as have I played it (organized), and watch it on tv all the time.

The funny thing is when I played in high school, I hardly knew anything about football besides knowing the name of the positions. I knew nothing about the strategies, and how things worked. I knew little about the organization of the team, and how it's many parts must work together in order for it to function properly.

I apologize if I act like I know everything about football, but my common sense tells me (along with the knowledge I now have about the sport) that there is more to the problem with UT besides it's offensive coordinator.

There are many more things involved in offense besides play-calling. As I said before, lack of discipline and concentration do not fall entirely on the hands of the O.C.
 
#52
#52
How about Phulmer saying, in the off week prior to'Bama ," how much time the team spent working on the kicking game." Poening kick off we return the kick back to OUR 9 yard line. Great work Phil! :good:
 
#53
#53
Originally posted by gonygonygo@Oct 27, 2005 2:47 PM
As I asked you before, please "QUOTE" me on these things that u claim I have stated.  I don't question your overall intelligence.  I just question your logic in what makes a football team work.

Football teams are very complex.  That's why they have such large coaching staffs.  That's why they put in so many hours.  That's why they make so much $$.

We both have one thing in common, we want our Vols to win more games, and score more points in the process.  I apologize if I said some insensitive things.  I just have a good handle on the football world.  I LIVE football, as have I played it (organized), and watch it on tv all the time.

The funny thing is when I played in high school, I hardly knew anything about football besides knowing the name of the positions.  I knew nothing about the strategies, and how things worked.  I knew little about the organization of the team, and how it's many parts must work together in order for it to function properly. 

I apologize if I act like I know everything about football, but my common sense tells me (along with the knowledge I now have about the sport) that there is more to the problem with UT besides it's offensive coordinator. 

There are many more things involved in offense besides play-calling.  As I said before, lack of discipline and concentration do not fall entirely on the hands of the O.C.
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No douubt what you say is correct BUT, the fact still remains the OC is responsible for the actions on the field. If not him then it is the Head Coach!
 
#54
#54
Why do we only work on one thing at a time? Let me guess, all that time we spent on special teams took away from concentrating on not fumbling the football.
 
#55
#55
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 27, 2005 2:41 PM
Wrong! Scouts tell Randy who to recruit and sign. If he cannot recruit and sign the likes of Shuler, Manning, Martin as did Cutcliffe then that is even more reason to can his a$$.
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Good grief!! Why does everything have to be Randy's fault?! You guys act like he is the head coach, and even the athletic director or something. Nobody else has any say-so in the team matters besides him. Damn!
 
#56
#56
Since Cutcliffe was sooo good back then, why didn't he win any championships back then?? If the offense was SOOOO good, why did we still get stomped by Florida every year???
 
#62
#62
real quick tho, how does that saying go??

Defense wins championships!!!!

Not the offensive coordinator.
 
#64
#64
I'm still waiting for Lexvol to address the points I made. He has no argument that can compete with my argument.
 
#66
#66
I was just referring to the whole "defense wins championships". That doesn't apply to Pac-10 teams.
 
#68
#68
come on, i know sanders isn't as good as cutcliffe was, but he can't be entirely responsible for the offensive woes as he is made out to be.

a couple of years ago, we were scoring points, running wel, and passing well, sanders was the OC. if the fall of of production is because these are now the players of sanders, then it has nothing to do with play-calling as people say. Our problem is recruiting. And that's another point I brought up earlier- that people are overlooking our "overrated" talent.
 
#69
#69
here's my theory, the coaching isn't much worse than it ever was in the past. we just always had superior talent in the past, and we no longer have that edge. the rest of the SEC has caught up with us in the talent pool, and now they are kicking our butts.
 
#71
#71
Originally posted by gonygonygo@Oct 27, 2005 3:03 PM
No offense, but we dont have NEARLY the talent they have.
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Well, we don't have their QB or running backs. Aside from that, I don't really see where they are better than us at any other position. The following are how I (my opinion) view the talent by position with TN v. USC:

DEFENSE

DL - TN
LB - TN
DB - TN

OFFENSE

OL - Tie
WR - TN
QB - USC
RB - USC

This is strictly a talent look. For instance, we have the worst WRs of any top team I've seen. However, I also think we have the most talent at WR of any top team I've seen, save maybe Florida (who also sucks).

 
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#72
Originally posted by Liper@Oct 27, 2005 4:39 PM

RB - USC
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Don't be so sure about that . . . They will be running an undersized freshman out there and they don't have a single RB with 200 yds rushing for the season.
 
#73
#73
Originally posted by Liper@Oct 27, 2005 3:39 PM
Well, we don't have their QB or running backs.  Aside from that, I don't really see where they are better than us at any other position.  The following are how I (my opinion) view the talent by position with TN v. USC:

DEFENSE

DL - TN
LB - TN
DB - TN

OFFENSE

OL - Tie
WR - TN
QB - USC
RB - USC

This is strictly a talent look.  For instance, we have the worst WRs of any top team I've seen.  However, I also think we have the most talent at WR of any top team I've seen, save maybe Florida (who also sucks).
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I think if we had THAT much talent, we would not be 3-3, no matter how bad the play-calling is said to be. We would win games by default. Honestly, I think you are giving too much credit to our OL and DB's.

We have a bunch of #2 receivers, but no game breakers.
 
#74
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 27, 2005 3:43 PM
Don't be so sure about that . . . They will be running an undersized freshman out there and they don't have a single RB with 200 yds rushing for the season.
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Umm.... They're running backs are SUPERIOR to ours right now. Reggie Bush would run ALL OVER our defense. So would White.

It would be a flashback of Cadillac and R. Brown last year. "POW" (Remember Jason Allen trying to tackle brown last year?)
 
#75
#75
Originally posted by Volstorm@Oct 27, 2005 3:01 PM
Tell that to USC.
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The only thing USC wins is popular opinions.

Lets not forget that the MNC is "Mythical" NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. People get impressed with a lot of offense.

But conversely, look at the NFL. More particularily, the Indy Colts and the Baltimore Ravens.

Indy Colts- Plenty of offense- 0 Super Bowl titles.

Baltimore Ravens- Plenty of Defense- 1 SB title.

Give me a great defense and just an average offense and I'll give you a championship.
 
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