Rank 'Em: BCS Champions

#55
#55
VolBuck24 said:
If u don't see him hold gamble then you're blind. It was the right call.
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There was no hold. There was contact, but it was well within the 5 yard limit, so I can't see a penalty. Nevertheless, Miami wasn't penalized for holding, they were penalized for PI, which simply didn't occur on that play. Not one thing the Miami defender did impeded Gamble from making that catch. I remembered this as a bad call but had never really rewatched it on the internet until today. I had always thought the worst part of the whole deal was the ref taking forever to throw the flag, but the after watching it several times, I'll agree with tvolsfan that it was just an outrageously bad call.
 
#56
#56
bleedorange0037 said:
There was no hold. There was contact, but it was well within the 5 yard limit, so I can't see a penalty. Nevertheless, Miami wasn't penalized for holding, they were penalized for PI, which simply didn't occur on that play. Not one thing the Miami defender did impeded Gamble from making that catch. I remembered this as a bad call but had never really rewatched it on the internet until today. I had always thought the worst part of the whole deal was the ref taking forever to throw the flag, but the after watching it several times, I'll agree with tvolsfan that it was just an outrageously bad call.
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But given the situation PI and holding carry the same weight. I remember watching it live saying there should have been a flag. Either way a penalty should have been called and it was.
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#57
#57
VolBuck24 said:
But given the situation PI and holding carry the same weight. I remember watching it live saying there should have been a flag. Either way a penalty should have been called and it was.
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While in theory this is correct since either call would have been half the distance to the goal, the refs still got the call wrong. No PI took place on that play, and that is what Miami was penalized for. The ref didn't see a hold, but he saw a phantom PI. Not one thing the Miami defender did in the endzone should have even remotely been mistaken for PI.
 
#58
#58
It looked like Gamble choked and got bailed out. It really didnt' look like Glenn Sharpe did anything wrong.
 
#61
#61
VolBuck24 said:
But given the situation PI and holding carry the same weight. I remember watching it live saying there should have been a flag. Either way a penalty should have been called and it was.
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I'm still not even sure where you're getting the hold from, since both the receiver and defender were legally hand-checking each other.

The close-up replay shows that the defender wasn't holding or contacting the receiver before the ball got there.
 
#62
#62
rockytop9808 said:
I'm still not even sure where you're getting the hold from, since both the receiver and defender were legally hand-checking each other.

The close-up replay shows that the defender wasn't holding or contacting the receiver before the ball got there.
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Agreed, and the facemask claim is laughable.
 
#63
#63
tvolsfan said:
Agreed, and the facemask claim is laughable.
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You can laugh all you want but it's there and could have been called. As far as the interference call sharpe had a hold of gambles jersey when the ball was in the air. Again gamble should have made the catch anyway, but the right call was made. Osu beat that miami team straight up, but we'll have to agree to disagree.
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#64
#64
VolBuck24 said:
You can laugh all you want but it's there and could have been called. As far as the interference call sharpe had a hold of gambles jersey when the ball was in the air. Again gamble should have made the catch anyway, but the right call was made. Osu beat that miami team straight up, but we'll have to agree to disagree.
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I really don't see how you say all this so definitively. It really looked like there was absolutely nothing there. There seemed to be legal contact by both and then the ball hit Gamble in the chest right before Sharpe hit him. And the facemask was nothing. No way anyone calls that, whether or not the game was on the line.
 
#65
#65
VolBuck24 said:
You can laugh all you want but it's there and could have been called. As far as the interference call sharpe had a hold of gambles jersey when the ball was in the air. Again gamble should have made the catch anyway, but the right call was made. Osu beat that miami team straight up, but we'll have to agree to disagree.
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If that was PI, then every play is PI then.

And no other call but PI was called, so pointing out all this other "stuff" Sharpe supposedly did is irrelevant. The PI call was horrid.
 
#66
#66
Only Buckeye fans and Big Ten honks are the only ones who think that call was legit... Everyone else on the planet says it was botched and Miami should have won that game.

Of course, they get the call right and there are no national champions in the BCS era outside of the sun belt portion of the US. Chew on that for a second.
 
#67
#67
Ill briefly give a reasoning behind my top 5

1) '01 Miami Hurricanes-I think this one is obvious. I think the waterboy was the only person that didnt go on to the NFL. The team was absolutely stacked and loaded 2-3 team at every position. The only team I can think of that had more talent on it was the '00 Hurricanes.

2) '09 Alabama- Might be a strech. I personally thought they were well balanced and well loaded dominating a tough SEC.

3) '04 USC-Very much the same category as Miami however in 04 the Pac 10 was a joke and not nearly as tough as it had been in years.

4) '05 Texas- Much as the same with USC. Could be placed in a top category yet strength of schedule hurts them. The Big 12 isnt the caliber of other conferences.

5) '98 Tennessee- I think this team is actually one of the more underrated teams in the BCS era. All you have to do is look at what came out of the backfield that year. Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, Travis Stephens and Shawn Bryson. Match them up with guys like Peerless Price, Al Wilson among other nfl draft pics. Tenn had a SOLID team.

6) '00 Oklahoma
7) '03 LSU
8) '08 Florida
9) '06 Florida
10) '07 LSU
11) '99 Florida St
12) '10 Auburn
13) '02 Ohio St
 
#68
#68
i would think y'all would rank tennessee last in the BCS era.

they were coached by phil fulmer.
 
#70
#70
Mr. U said:
Ill briefly give a reasoning behind my top 5

1) '01 Miami Hurricanes-I think this one is obvious. I think the waterboy was the only person that didnt go on to the NFL. The team was absolutely stacked and loaded 2-3 team at every position. The only team I can think of that had more talent on it was the '00 Hurricanes.

2) '09 Alabama- Might be a strech. I personally thought they were well balanced and well loaded dominating a tough SEC.

3) '04 USC-Very much the same category as Miami however in 04 the Pac 10 was a joke and not nearly as tough as it had been in years.

4) '05 Texas- Much as the same with USC. Could be placed in a top category yet strength of schedule hurts them. The Big 12 isnt the caliber of other conferences.

5) '98 Tennessee- I think this team is actually one of the more underrated teams in the BCS era. All you have to do is look at what came out of the backfield that year. Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry, Travis Stephens and Shawn Bryson. Match them up with guys like Peerless Price, Al Wilson among other nfl draft pics. Tenn had a SOLID team.

6) '00 Oklahoma
7) '03 LSU
8) '08 Florida
9) '06 Florida
10) '07 LSU
11) '99 Florida St
12) '10 Auburn
13) '02 Ohio St
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I might switch the 04 USC team with the 05 Texas team.
 
#71
#71
justingroves said:
I might switch the 04 USC team with the 05 Texas team.
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I wouldn't, to be honest. I think the 2004 version was better than the one Texas beat. I'd take a few teams head to head over the 2005 horns. VY was great, but that USC defense gave up a lot of points on the season. I can't see a one man offense putting up big numbers on the 2001 Canes, 2009 Tide, 2004 Trojans, or even the 1998 Vols.
 
#72
#72
That wasn't exactly a one man show on offense... It just was for that particular game, which happened to be the best individual performance in any BCSMNCG.
 
#73
#73
I loathe 'The U', but that '01 squad was potentially one of the most talented rosters in college football history. There were 10 NFL Pro-Bowlers on that team. I've listed the entire roster below, but some of the more notables are: Andre Johnson, Antrelle Rolle, Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, Mike Rumph, Phillip Buchanon, Jonathan Vilma, Vince Wilfork, Bryant McKinnie, Roscoe Parrish, plus Jeremy Shockey AND Kellen (I'm a SOLDJA) Winslow. The backfield only consisted of Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, and Najeh Davenport.

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Agreed. I know they lost a little bit after the '01 season, but I've always held to the opinion that the '02 Miami team that came to Neyland and hammered the Vols is the best best college football team I've ever seen in person. I still have no idea how OSU beat them in the NCG. If McGahee torn up his knee the game might have turned of different, but who knows.

The '01 roster is basically a who's who of great NFL players. The fact that they are ranked 4th in the current poll shows that many of the people voting are either too young or have too short a memory to accurately rank all the champs.
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I think you forgot that the 02 Miami lost to OSU due to a bogus late pas interference call which kept their drive alive. Without that call OSU losses.
 
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