Rank 'Em: BCS Champions

[strongtower]

Fulmer was a good coach up until about 2002

yep after Fulmer squandered us playing for the title in 02 it was down hill from there.

 

[MSCE09]

Besides USC has never won the BCS.

 

[milohimself]

Besides USC has never won the BCS.

o rly?

All-time results

BCS still recognizes the 2004 season USC BCS Championship.

 

[tvolsfan]

That wasn't exactly a one man show on offense... It just was for that particular game, which happened to be the best individual performance in any BCSMNCG.

They were extremely dependent on him in the biggest games.

 

[bamawriter]

o rly?

All-time results

BCS still recognizes the 2004 season USC BCS Championship.

Only until USC loses their appeal.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I get that and I tried to adjust my post before it was quoted, pretty quick on the draw there emain, but I still feel that Vince Young was too good that year and created too many problems that they were the best in the BCS era.

But this is by the slimmest of margins. I still think the '01 Canes were a monster of a team.

That Canes def was sick. Super talented AND extemely well coached. (Our D that year on the other hand was also super talented, but not very well coached) Miami would have slowed Texas down, if not shut them completely down. Texas could not stop USC, and they would not have stopped Miami. Blowout IMO

 

[rmsmith]

We're creeping up.

 

[chavisut]

We're creeping up.
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Are those rankings your real opinion?

 

[Mr. U]

I loathe 'The U', but that '01 squad was potentially one of the most talented rosters in college football history. There were 10 NFL Pro-Bowlers on that team. I've listed the entire roster below, but some of the more notables are: Andre Johnson, Antrelle Rolle, Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, Mike Rumph, Phillip Buchanon, Jonathan Vilma, Vince Wilfork, Bryant McKinnie, Roscoe Parrish, plus Jeremy Shockey AND Kellen (I'm a SOLDJA) Winslow. The backfield only consisted of Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, and Najeh Davenport.

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Look at the year before when they should have also played for the title but got shafted. You lose some of the names on that list but gain names like Dan Morgan, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne

 

[chavisut]

Look at the year before when they should have also played for the title but got shafted. You lose some of the names on that list but gain names like Dan Morgan, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne

If you guys are in, Washington claims they're shafted.

 

[tvolsfan]

If you guys are in, Washington claims they're shafted.

And I'd have a hard time disagreeing with them.

 

[Mr. U]

If you guys are in, Washington claims they're shafted.

That's true but it all falls on when you lose and to whom. I think the later in the season you lose you shouldnt be getting ranked higher. Miami lost first, then Washington and then Florida St. By default I would have taken Miami then Washington then Florida St. That's just my opinion though.

 

[tvolsfan]

I really don't see why that is the first thing you go to. Shouldn't be head to head? And also, Washington beat another team that would have been unbeaten. I'm not sure why they didn't get more consideration. Maybe because Miami was number 2 in both human polls and got jumped because of the computers, people were more inclined to say they got screwed.

 

[Mr. U]

I really don't see why that is the first thing you go to. Shouldn't be head to head? And also, Washington beat another team that would have been unbeaten. I'm not sure why they didn't get more consideration. Maybe because Miami was number 2 in both human polls and got jumped because of the computers, people were more inclined to say they got screwed.

Well thats exactly what I mean. Sitting at #2 and getting jumped. If Washington would have lost first and then Miami, chances are Washington would have fallen and then risen before Miami and this debate would have been about Washington. That the kicker with a lot of 1 loss teams that play for national titles. If you look, they lose early in the season and can build themselves back up the rankings. Washington was the #3 team and lost to the #8 team. Miami was the #2 team and lost to the #3 team. Miami lost earlier and to better competition (and by a smaller amount points wise) so Ive always felt Miami should have gotten the nod. Even if you would have put Washington in though, it would have been a better choice IMO then Florida St. Miami is like 1A and Washington is 1B, Florida St is option C

 

[tvolsfan]

It's not like Washington lost the last game of the year. They lost 3 weeks after Miami and still finished strong. I just find it hard to find an argument for Miami over FSU that trumps any claim Miami had over Washington.

 

[Mr. U]

It's not like Washington lost the last game of the year. They lost 3 weeks after Miami and still finished strong. I just find it hard to find an argument for Miami over FSU that trumps any claim Miami had over Washington.

Well like I said, I dont think you can go wrong with either one of them and there would always be a dispute but college rankings have always been the same, If you lose, the sooner the better. Odds are you probably should have had Washington vs Miami as the National Title as I dont think Oklahoma even played anybody that year.

 

[tvolsfan]

OU beat Nebraska who was number 1 when they played each other. They also murdered a Texas team that I think went like 9-3 or something like that. They definitely deserved to be there.

 

[milohimself]

The idea that a loss at the end of the season means more than a loss at the beginning is ridiculous.
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[chavisut]

That's true but it all falls on when you lose and to whom. I think the later in the season you lose you shouldnt be getting ranked higher. Miami lost first, then Washington and then Florida St. By default I would have taken Miami then Washington then Florida St. That's just my opinion though.

Come on.

 

[UTRavens]

Seriously though, the combination of ignorance and hypocrisy makes the 2000 controversy one of my favorite topics in the history of college football. I don't believe very much in east coast bias, but there's your most compelling case.

 

[Mr. U]

The idea that a loss at the end of the season means more than a loss at the beginning is ridiculous.
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Its been used as an unwritten rule for many many years though.

 

[CubsFanTN]

OU beat Nebraska who was number 1 when they played each other. They also murdered a Texas team that I think went like 9-3 or something like that. They definitely deserved to be there.

They beat 4 teams that ended up in the final BCS 15.
Nebraska, Texas, Florida State and Kansas State (twice!).

 

[Tidal Surge]

 

[Volgrad98]

Took me a second to figure out what that was, but I get it. HAHA

 

[CardassianVol]

I'm not too sure about that site. Just for fun I played UT's '98 NC team 10 times against both the '09 Bama team and the '01 Miami team all at a neutral site.

The Vols went 2-8 vs. '09 Alabama and 6-4 vs. '01 Miami. I still don't believe for a second that '09 Bama was better than '01 Miami.

I just ran the 98 Vols against the 2010 Tide and Alabama was 12-2 against them. I'm done with that site.