read this about your future healthcare

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But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”
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They will deny treatment if you are deemed unlikely to survive. Cost vs chances of survival will be the deciding factor.

Before any of you liberals scream that isn't so. IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY IN THE UK.
 
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They are calling this "means" testing. Another "change the meaning of a word" to make it sound more mainstream.
Everyone should read about this and voice their opinion to the "powers that be".
People WILL BE DENIED treatment based on age and survival rates.
Change is a com'n!
 
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Yeah, lets totally overreact to some motivational right wing rhetoric. Good one fellas. You've done your job for the day.

Change is coming...and it is good. For all of us.

And yes, Joe, I am glad I voted for him

Now repeat after me......My president is Barack Obama
:salute:
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, lets totally overreact to some motivational right wing rhetoric. Good one fellas. You've done your job for the day.

Change is coming...and it is good. For all of us.

And yes, Joe, I am glad I voted for him

Now repeat after me......My president is Barack Obama
:salute:
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That's not right wing rhetoric. She's simply regurgitating what's in the bill and currently being overlooked in the debate.

The idea that we're going to save money with gov't intervention is stupid. The only way it happens it to lessen care and limit that available and limit choice, which is exactly what is happening. She has brought to light the brunt of the problem with federalized healthcare.

Everyone wants to proclaim the disastrous Euro systems a panacea, but, in the end, we're all damn glad that we don't have to live under them.
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, lets totally overreact to some motivational right wing rhetoric. Good one fellas. You've done your job for the day.

Change is coming...and it is good. For all of us.

And yes, Joe, I am glad I voted for him

Now repeat after me......My president is Barack Obama
:salute:
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It ain't just rhetoric. It's what's coming. So if you need cancer treatment and your survival chance if less than say 20% you don't get treatment. You like that idea? I don't.
 
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Once and for all, I voted for McCain. I work in the aircraft industry and a Republican administration is better for my long term job security. More defense spending means more military aircraft programs down the road. Also, my wife and I are fortunate enough to fall into the category of people who will be taxed more heavily under Obama. Simplistic and selfish reasons? Perhaps.

So, just because I don't constantly call him Hussein or post daily links to his nefarious plot to turn America into a Muslim theocracy does not mean that I voted for him...wait, you were addressing vadar, my mistake. Carry on...
 
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vader said:
Once and for all, I voted for McCain. I work in the aircraft industry and a Republican administration is better for my long term job security. More defense spending means more military aircraft programs down the road. Also, my wife and I are fortunate enough to fall into the category of people who will be taxed more heavily under Obama. Simplistic and selfish reasons? Perhaps.

So, just because I don't constantly call him Hussein or post daily links to his nefarious plot to turn America into a Muslim theocracy does not mean that I voted for him...wait, you were addressing vadar, my mistake. Carry on...
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fyi, I think the majority on here, who can read, didn't need that overview.
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, lets totally overreact to some motivational right wing rhetoric. Good one fellas. You've done your job for the day.

Change is coming...and it is good. For all of us.

And yes, Joe, I am glad I voted for him

Now repeat after me......My president is Barack Obama
:salute:
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sorry i'm just not into the govt telling my doctors how they should treat me. i pay for my own damn healthcare package, just because jose, and dez, and billy bob can't or won't get healthcare doesn't mean i should have mine restricted.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
fyi, I think the majority on here, who can read, didn't need that overview.
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I know.

You know, the real irony is that my father and his father are/were staunch Democrats and my brother-in-law is, as well. So I hear anti-republican rhetoric from that side and I come on here and read what might be classified as a slightly right leaning politics forum.

The end result is that I hate them all.
 
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vader said:
I know.

You know, the real irony is that my father and his father are/were staunch Democrats and my brother-in-law is, as well. So I hear anti-republican rhetoric from that side and I come on here and read what might be classified as a slightly right leaning politics forum.

The end result is that I hate them all.
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I am now to the point of hating them all. There is absolutely no such thing as service in politics any longer. It's almost pure self interest and self preservation. I can't think of one politician over the past 15 years who gives a rip about the long term health of this country.
 
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trufan, repeat after me, "i'm not a sheep. somewhere deep in my mind i have some common sense. i need to look at my life and learn how i can learn to think for myself." :eek:lol:

didn't neville chamberlin say the same thing about hitler? oh don't worry guys, he doesn't mind jews. heck, he's one himself. baaaaa baaaaa
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, lets totally overreact to some motivational right wing rhetoric. Good one fellas. You've done your job for the day.

Change is coming...and it is good. For all of us.

And yes, Joe, I am glad I voted for him

Now repeat after me......My, no one is smarter than me and if you disagree with my new socialist policies you are stupid, president is Barack Obama:salute:
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fyp
 
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joevol320 said:
trufan, repeat after me, "i'm not a sheep. somewhere deep in my mind i have some common sense. i need to look at my life and learn how i can learn to think for myself." :eek:lol:
didn't neville chamberlin say the same thing about hitler? oh don't worry guys, he doesn't mind jews. heck, he's one himself. baaaaa baaaaa
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Fortunately, I will NEVER need the affirmation of someone like yourself
 
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Question....If the U.K. is trying their best to stop and get away from the exact health care program that BHO has put in this bill, how can anyone think this is a good thing for the U.S.?
 
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Some quotes.

One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).
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Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.
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This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.
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The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).
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The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry.
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Vol Mania 21 said:
sorry i'm just not into the govt telling my doctors how they should treat me. i pay for my own damn healthcare package, just because jose, and dez, and billy bob can't or won't get healthcare doesn't mean i should have mine restricted.
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Trust me buddy, if you pay for your own healthcare, as you claim, you have nothing to worry about.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Trust me buddy, if you pay for your own healthcare, as you claim, you have nothing to worry about.
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that's funny. the government will force him to take their coverage. by raising the rates so high, it will be impossible or just by demanding it.
 
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joevol320 said:
that's funny. the government will force him to take their coverage. by raising the rates so high, it will be impossible or just by demanding it.
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Just the opposite. The healthcare industry will be rolling out the red carpet for self-insured clients.

You have three options: self insured, hmo, or government. You play by the rules set for each with diminished benefits coming as you work your way down.

Are you mad because you'll be one of the bottom feeders? I have no problem with the idea of becoming a preferred client.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Trust me buddy, if you pay for your own healthcare, as you claim, you have nothing to worry about.
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Not according to BHO. I believe his statemant went something like, "if everyone is not one the same government plan, it can not work".
 
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