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#26
#26
UT IE 95 said:
Just the opposite. The healthcare industry will be rolling out the red carpet for self-insured clients.

You have three options: self insured, hmo, or government. You play by the rules set for each with diminished benefits coming as you work your way down.

Are you mad because you'll be one of the bottom feeders? I have no problem with the idea of becoming a preferred client.
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Those "options" will not be there for long after this gets going.
 
#29
#29
T-TownVol said:
Those "options" will not be there for long after this gets going.
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Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
 
#31
#31
truefan said:
Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
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don't kid yourself. Federalized healthcare is anathema to our way of life and is a disaster to boot.
 
#36
#36
truefan said:
Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
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We should fear the government, when they take over anything all it does is get more costly and performs worse.
 
#37
#37
truefan said:
Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
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name one social program that is run efficiently.
 
#38
#38
T-TownVol said:
Those "options" will not be there for long after this gets going.
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Paying cash for medical care at time of service will always be the best option - in fact, it is getting better every day. You get the best care from the best doctors - always have, always will.

Bottom feeder physicians care for the bottom feeder free healthcare users. It happens today, so don't go crazy thinking this is something new that will change the current systems in place.
 
#39
#39
UT IE 95 said:
Paying cash for medical care at time of service will always be the best option - in fact, it is getting better every day. You get the best care from the best doctors - always have, always will.

Bottom feeder physicians care for the bottom feeder free healthcare users. It happens today, so don't go crazy thinking this is something new that will change the current systems in place.
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The bill is filled with the term "every American". I just beleive that giving the governmentnthis type of power over our lives can not be good.

Paying cash for everyday medical services is easy to do. I have been self insurred for years. It is the major medical expenses that will be controlled by BHO if he gets his way. Why else would he be pushing for "all" medical records be the possesion of the Federal Government via mandatory electronic registering?
 
#40
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truefan said:
Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
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Hmmmm...I know a certain leader that is all over this method.
 
#43
#43
UT IE 95 said:
Paying cash for medical care at time of service will always be the best option - in fact, it is getting better every day. You get the best care from the best doctors - always have, always will.

Bottom feeder physicians care for the bottom feeder free healthcare users. It happens today, so don't go crazy thinking this is something new that will change the current systems in place.
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Who the hell has the cash to pay for open heart surgery followed by several days of ICU care?
 
#45
#45
has this gotten any coverage on CNN, MSNBC, Fox? I assume Fox is the only one talking about it, but I haven't been watching the others...
 
#47
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truefan said:
Yes they will. All you guys are, as usual, are overreacting and making false predictions. Based on nothing more than your propensity to create fear for government.
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With your attitude I doubt you have ever been outside the U.S.

You need to do some research on healthcare in Canada and the U.K. If you do that I think you will change your mind concerning over reaction and what you consider to be false predictions.

You need to ask yourself why, if socialized healthcare is so great, do so many Canadians come to the U.S. and pay for treatment when they could get it free (eventually) in Canada? Why is there a section of London that is dedicated to health facilities that are private pay and do not participate in the government program?
 
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#48
#48
KentheOrange said:
With your attitude I doubt you have ever been outside the U.S.

You need to do some research on healthcare in Canada and the U.K. If you do that I think you will change your mind concerning over reaction and what you consider to be false predictions.
You need to ask yourself why, if socialized healthcare is so great, do so many Canadians come to the U.S. and pay for treatment when they could get it free (eventually) in Canada? Why is there a section of London that is dedicated to health facilities that are private pay and do not participate in the government program?
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It is highly likely I have spent more time in one year outside of the US than you have in your lifetime.


I understand the plans in Canada and the UK very well. Aren't we supposed to better than those countries? Shouldn't we be able to learn from others mistakes and improve the system in our favor? With our medical expertise and management? You can either react to others' shortcomings or be proactive and make an effort to do something better. I like the latter approach
 
#49
#49
truefan said:
It is highly likely I have spent more time in one year outside of the US than you have in your lifetime.


I understand the plans in Canada and the UK very well. Aren't we supposed to better than those countries? Shouldn't we be able to learn from others mistakes and improve the system in our favor? With our medical expertise and management? You can either react to others' shortcomings or be proactive and make an effort to do something better. I like the latter approach
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we are in the process of copying those guys. This idea that information management is going to cut pricing drastically is stupid. It won't. The bottom line is that the people providing the care or those taking the risk to pay for it will have to do so cheaper to make it actually cheaper.

Obama is following the Clinton path to losing Congress by slipping this federalized healthcare into this disastrous spending package. We aren't going to create jobs and we aren't really going to do anything more than take a huge leap to a federalized health system, which Americans in huge numbers loathe.
 
#50
#50
truefan said:
It is highly likely I have spent more time in one year outside of the US than you have in your lifetime.


I understand the plans in Canada and the UK very well. Aren't we supposed to better than those countries? Shouldn't we be able to learn from others mistakes and improve the system in our favor? With our medical expertise and management? You can either react to others' shortcomings or be proactive and make an effort to do something better. I like the latter approach
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Or another option is to realize that the very plan itself is a disaster and that making anything free allows the people to put no value on the care they are receiving. This means that people will go to the doctor for every sniffle and cough, something that is already very common in our hospitals. When it becomes free it becomes entitlement and then gets abused, and this I'm afraid only scratches the surface with the problem of free health care. When one entity (the government) is involved it becomes so overwhelmed that it cannot be managed properly.
 
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