Reasons why Butch Jones is staying with Worely as the starter.

[LWSVOL]

So do we just consider this year a wash, I guess and look to the future?

depends on what you mean by wash.

they try to win every game and believe the QB playing gives them the best chance to do so. Getting this team I a bowl game would be a huge accomplishment. that is what they are trying to do.

I think that is difficult no matter who is the QB. why I predicted 5 wins in August.

 

[sjt18]

Trying to redshirt two true freshmen quarterbacks in the same year when your starter can barely complete a pass beyond five yards and the back-up behind him is injured & out is ignorant, I don't care the excuse.

If that were the case then you'd be right. But exaggeration to the point of creating a false premise "is ignorant, I don't care the excuse".

 

[ETNVol]

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the other major concern I've learned is if one of the freshman becomes starter, very likely the other 3 QBs transfer and then you go into 2014 with one QB..

Major concern..

No, it isn't. Worley has one year left. He isn't going anywhere. Worst case one of the freshman leave.

If this were a "major concern", no way Peterman would've started in Florida.

 

[darkgable]

These freshman not getting any playing time is gonna hurt! And I don't see Worley getting us to 6 wins so that will put us another year behind! I think coach is gonna ride Worley out to save the redshirts. The also think worley has been told not to run to save injury!

Then why did he keep the ball twice Saturday?

 

[darkgable]

I just find it funny that alot of fans want to see the freshman because worley is not playing well. when more than likely if we threw one of them in it would turn out just like the Florida game.

Not according to these geniuses.

 

[govols/cc]

Not according to these geniuses.

If you're not gonna play them you're pretty much conceding next year is wash too. If you play them you at least see what they have in a live game situation. Not saying start them in the swamp but they should've gotten some PT against AP & maybe WKU & Oregon.

 

[LWSVOL]

No, it isn't. Worley has one year left. He isn't going anywhere. Worst case one of the freshman leave.

If this were a "major concern", no way Peterman would've started in Florida.

okay... not what I hear but okay. I can't debate it..

 

[sjt18]

If you're not gonna play them you're pretty much conceding next year is wash too.

No you are not. In spite of the non-sense being spewed here, Worley has the talent to be a good QB. If he continues to improve then he will start next fall and that will not be conceding a wash.

If neither of the Fr develop enough this fall to play then they still have a whole year to get them ready to play next fall. MOST good programs develop players for a year or two before they get any kind of significant playing time. IIRC, Bama signed a top 5 recruiting class a year or two ago and when asked Saban said almost all of them would RS, none would start, and very few would play better than marginal roles.

If you play them you at least see what they have in a live game situation. Not saying start them in the swamp but they should've gotten some PT against AP & maybe WKU & Oregon.

When Jones says they are not ready... then maybe... he means they ARE NOT READY... as in not ready for ANY opponent.

 

[govols/cc]

No you are not. In spite of the non-sense being spewed here, Worley has the talent to be a good QB. If he continues to improve then he will start next fall and that will not be conceding a wash.

If neither of the Fr develop enough this fall to play then they still have a whole year to get them ready to play next fall. MOST good programs develop players for a year or two before they get any kind of significant playing time. IIRC, Bama signed a top 5 recruiting class a year or two ago and when asked Saban said almost all of them would RS, none would start, and very few would play better than marginal roles.



When Jones says they are not ready... then maybe... he means they ARE NOT READY... as in not ready for ANY opponent.

Bla bla it'll be the same next year or probably WORSE.

 

[patrick]

I dont think the Vols get to 6 and 6 with Worley at the helm.

 

[sjt18]

Bla bla it'll be the same next year or probably WORSE.

Well Nostradamus... I will certainly remember YOU said that and remind you if it isn't.

Bla, bla.... IF Jones is worthy of a paycheck then the players who return will be better than they are. That's pretty much the bottom line whether Worley continues to start or one of the others pass him.

But go ahead and stomp your feet and demand change for the sake of change rather than deferring to the guys who actually have enough info to make an intelligent decision.

I don't honestly know why I continue to discuss this non-sense. I personally think that the Fr are coming along but will not be thrown to the wolves even IF they pass Worley in practice. They, like Bray, weren't ready to play early so even IF they have better talent which is NOT a known fact... UT needed to suffer with the experienced guy until they could be brought up to speed. There's very little doubt that before Peterman's injury Jones was INTELLIGENTLY trying to RS both Fr.


I previously said one might appear vs Mizzou but USCe is a possibility too. It is a home game against a team with their own set of experience and depth issues on both sides of the ball. Mizzou is the least talented D on the schedule in all likelihood to include WKU and USA. Even on the road, if Worley isn't showing signs of life that could be a time to get one of them in.

Jones isn't going to throw those guys out there against the two most talented SEC teams UT faces this year in UGA and Bama. That would be abjectly stupid.

 

[govols/cc]

Well Nostradamus... I will certainly remember YOU said that and remind you if it isn't.

Bla, bla.... IF Jones is worthy of a paycheck then the players who return will be better than they are. That's pretty much the bottom line whether Worley continues to start or one of the others pass him.

But go ahead and stomp your feet and demand change for the sake of change rather than deferring to the guys who actually have enough info to make an intelligent decision.

I don't honestly know why I continue to discuss this non-sense. I personally think that the Fr are coming along but will not be thrown to the wolves even IF they pass Worley in practice. They, like Bray, weren't ready to play early so even IF they have better talent which is NOT a known fact... UT needed to suffer with the experienced guy until they could be brought up to speed. There's very little doubt that before Peterman's injury Jones was INTELLIGENTLY trying to RS both Fr.


I previously said one might appear vs Mizzou but USCe is a possibility too. It is a home game against a team with their own set of experience and depth issues on both sides of the ball. Mizzou is the least talented D on the schedule in all likelihood to include WKU and USA. Even on the road, if Worley isn't showing signs of life that could be a time to get one of them in.

Jones isn't going to throw those guys out there against the two most talented SEC teams UT faces this year in UGA and Bama. That would be abjectly stupid.

My god.

 

[sjt18]

My god.

That's what I said to myself when I saw your absolute non-sense of a post.

"Hey, things are going poorly in the passing game. We have a ton of youth at WR. I've got a GREAT IDEA.... Let's throw a green freshman QB out there before he's even close to being ready.'

That's just brilliant.

 

[govols/cc]

That's what I said to myself when I saw your absolute non-sense of a post.

"Hey, things are going poorly in the passing game. We have a ton of youth at WR. I've got a GREAT IDEA.... Let's throw a green freshman QB out there before he's even close to being ready.'

That's just brilliant.

I'm guessing you call into Vols Calls

 

[Rockytoptalker]

I dont think the Vols get to 6 and 6 with Worley at the helm.

And where do you think they'll be when one of the freshmen gets out there?

Let me answer for you- There won't be a bit of difference except for the fact that we just burned a redshirt for no reason.

 

[govols/cc]

That's what I said to myself when I saw your absolute non-sense of a post.

"Hey, things are going poorly in the passing game. We have a ton of youth at WR. I've got a GREAT IDEA.... Let's throw a green freshman QB out there before he's even close to being ready.'

That's just brilliant.

Nobody said anything about starting them. To expect them to be ready next year without a down under their belt is just as dumb as it would be now.

 

[govols/cc]

And where do you think they'll be when one of the freshmen gets out there?

Let me answer for you- There won't be a bit of difference except for the fact that we just burned a redshirt for no reason.

I'd rather burn a redshirt than a season.

 

[sjt18]

Nobody said anything about starting them. To expect them to be ready next year without a down under their belt is just as dumb as it would be now.

Tell that to last year's Heisman winner.

 

[sjt18]

I'm guessing you call into Vols Calls

:lolabove:

Ummmm, No.

 

[sjt18]

BTW... MANY are calling for one of the Fr to start.

I think Worley has progressed. I think if he continues to progress with the WR's then things will improve a good bit over the remainder of the season and he'll keep the job through the end of next year barring injury.

If he does not improve then I think one of the Fr will get a shot sometime after Bama much like Bray did. I will not claim to have any idea how they will do if one or both get that shot.

 

[99gator]

worley is not the guy.

if the coaches believed in worley, they would never have benched him after oregon.

they don't have a viable alternative, at least at the present time.

 

[LWSVOL]

I dont think the Vols get to 6 and 6 with Worley at the helm.

I don't think any of them can get them to 6-6 but Butch has to chose who he thinks gives them best chance and go for it. it is very important to get to a bowl. extra practice

 

[sjt18]

worley is not the guy.

if the coaches believed in worley, they would never have benched him after oregon.

Right, because no good QB has ever come back after being benched with a clearer head.

Worley since being benched has played looser. He's taken more chances. He's made better throws. He has NOT been apprehensive.

He's made mistakes... correctable mistakes. He could crawl back into his shell. He could continue to progress and fix those mistakes.

Funny that you are spewing this stuff though. After basically spotting you the first half by playing Peterman, UT made a run and had a chance late to make it a game behind Worley. He threw a pick trying to throw the ball away late. If that doesn't happen then the course of the game might have been different. It is hard to imagine the course of the game not being significantly different win or lose if Worley had started.

Playing for the most part in a "must pass situation"... he had his best yardage half of the season. Until the last two drives when UF loaded up to stop the pass, he was 13/17 with a TD pass and 149 yds.

Jones' mistake... fails to be an indictment of Worley like you are trying to make it.

they don't have a viable alternative, at least at the present time.

UF is the best D UT has played. Worley showed significant improvement after being benched. If the receivers continue to improve... UT will not need a viable alternative barring injury.

 

[VolsNUT]

The first 2 possessions against South Alabama looked bad. But after that Worley looked very good till halfway through the 3rd quarter. 2 of the 3 interceptions were not his fault, and even the other was a very well thrown ball. I saw progress till late in the game and that's what worries me.

Seems like he is either doing everything well (not great, but decent), or just plain bad. If he's playing good, he's making good decisions, good throws and seems comfortable. But on the other side, if he's playing bad, everything is bad.

 

[SaintLouisVol]

. . .To expect them to be ready next year without a down under their belt is just as dumb as it would be now.

So another year of off-season lifting, studying the offense, a spring practice, another fall camp and simply maturing physically and mentally would be worth nothing?

You're mistaken, IMO.