Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Agree there have been open receivers but nothing like last year. JW was matched up on a safety most of the time and running wild. I see JM going through his progressions and all qbs fail to see open receivers, easy to do when they're running around. HH missed plenty last year or we would have scored 100 points a game.

He’s not going through progressions. His INT, he didn’t look at anyone else and the DB sat in that spot the entire time. And most slants are predetermined. It is what it is. Just praying it changes because we would be a playoff team with better play at QB.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Anyone a big cigar smoker? I’d like to get a good one today and not sure what to get. I’m thinking $50 plus. Already bought the Colonel EH Taylor small batch to enjoy with it.

 

[RikidyBones]

My suggestion for start of the 4th quarter....

Rocky Top Rocks... Rocky Top Rolls.

 

[Govolsman98]

We're beating bama in a couple days

 

[BigSteve09]

Rusty on Basilio with a heater of a stat:

For the Vols in 2021 and 2022, the percentage of pass interference calls on our incompletions was 22%.

For the Vols in 2023, the percentage of pass interference calls on our incompletions is 3%.

I still can't get over this.

Outrageous stat.

 

[BigSteve09]

Anyone a big cigar smoker? I’d like to get a good one today and not sure what to get. I’m thinking $50 plus. Already bought the Colonel EH Taylor small batch to enjoy with it.

I like the Padron 1926

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[engineerVOL]

…there’s an accuracy joke here…

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

My reply wasn't a comparison between Joe and Hendo, not fair to Joe.

It was a comparison to the comment of "he's regressed" which is wrong. The difference between Joe in the Clemson game and what we've seen thus far has really come down to misses in the deep balls. He lacks timing, but some of Joe's deep balls were good throws and a missed PI or a drop is the reason they didn't hit.

I can agree with this. Good points. What I will say is hopefully we have more consistent QB play next year. This team with consistent QB play and better receivers next year will be hard to beat.

 

[engineerVOL]

I still can't get over this.

Outrageous stat.

Is that because our receivers were vastly better last year and getting off the LOS at a better clip and QB is less accurate.

 

[engineerVOL]

Thing is...I'm trying to think of the last superstar QB that "looked like a beast"

There's basically just Cam Newton...oh and Jared Lorenzen

Give me Patty Mahomes or even Kyler Murray. A little squirt with an arm, legs, quick brain, and a quick trigger.

That’s true.

 

[mrmax86]

It's no secret that we have missed a lot of opportunities this season. It's also no secret that the refs haven't helped us with their wrong-calls/non-calls. This thread will be my best attempt at compiling the major things this season that SHOULD or EASILY could have gone our way, that, if they did, we'd be having a lot different conversation. And, hopefully, I can illustrate this team's true potential, if we fully play up to it.

A couple disclaimers: If it is not obvious how many points we would have gotten on a drive, I will estimate. For example, if there's no conclusive proof we would have scored, but we'd at least have had a chip-shot field goal, then I'll put our points at 5. If we miss an obvious TD, we missed 7. If we were dominating a drive and MOST LIKELY would have scored a TD, I may award 6 or 7. If we knocked ourselves out of field goal range, I'll probably say 2 or 3 based on how easy the FG would have been.

Game	What Happened	Then What Happened	Points Missed
Virginia	Ramel Keyton drops a BEAUTIFUL pass from Milton.	Would have either been a TD or left us DEEP in UVA Territory. Drive went 3-out.	5
Virginia	False Start, then Sack	Out of makeable FG range	1
Virginia	Dee Williams Fumble in UVA Territory on punt return	Would have started the next drive in FG range instead of a turnover	3
Austin Peay	Did not convert 4th & 2 at AP 16	Should have taken the FG	3
Austin Peay	Two WEAK penalties against us on two 1st down conversions	If even one of them is called, we have a better chance for a TD rather than a FG	1
Austin Peay	Obvious Catch and Fumble NOT overturned by replay	INT would have led to great field position for next drive	2
Austin Peay	Obvious PI not called against Peay in end zone	Kicked FG instead	4
Austin Peay	Keyton fumble on 1st down catch at AP 19	Turnover, no points	4
Florida	Hadden non-tackle on UF TD	TD, from far out, sparked UF, killed momentum	5 (Opp)
Florida	Milton BAD INT	UF Great starting field position	4 (Opp)
Florida	Confusion/Ref Kicked Ball	Allowed UF substitution, did not convert 4th and 1	5
Florida	Horrible blindside block call on a 1st down into FG range	Set up 2nd & 27 and drive stalled	2
Florida	Stupid Roughing the Passer by Herring	Progressed UF across Midfield, and 1st down. Would have been 3rd & long	3 (Opp)
Florida	Offsides on obvious 4th down punt situation	1st down and cost us 2.5 minutes	0
UTSA	Errant touching on a partially blocked punt	Turnover. Would have resulted in near-FG range	3
UTSA	Nimrod slows down on a potential long completion	Would have been an opportunity for at least a FG to end the half	3
UTSA	Milton misses White on a wide open crossing pattern	Would have been a TD if the pass was even close. Was behind. Drive stalled.	7
UTSA	Horrible missed Facemask on Nico	Should have been a 1st down and near the red zone	3
USCe	Milton INT then Simmons Facemask	Gave South Carolina great field position. They scored.	5 (Opp)
USCe	Milton 2nd INT, in FG Range	Turnover, no points	3
USCe	Dee Williams Return TD Wiped off by Penalty	Only scored FG on ensuing drive	4
USCe	Tamarion McDonald missed INT/PBU on 4th Down	USCe converted and drove for a FG, instead of setting us up in their territory	3 (Opp) 3
A&M	Missed PI on deep pass to Keyton	I don't think Keyton would have caught it, would have been 1st down, we converted a 1st down after this anyways	0
A&M	Milton brain fart on 3rd & 8 free play	Could have converted 1st down. We didn't convert 3rd & 3	1
A&M	I don't even know what to call this	Turnover on 4th & 2 instead of kicking FG or converting. (Milton ran OB)	3
A&M	Keyton dropped walk-in TD	Didn't cost us points, because the Rouging the Passer saved his bacon	0
A&M	Two holding penalties by Ollie Lane	Killed our drive and prevented us getting into FG range	3
A&M	Milton threw behind Keyton crossing route	Would have been 1st down into FG range. Went for it on 4th and did not convert	3
A&M	Obvious PI no-call on Milton to Nimrod	We converted 1st down after this, but field position could have been different.	0
A&M	Milton INT in end zone	We were driving. Would have likely scored a TD or at least FG	5
A&M	Offensive facemask on 1st down run	Would have put us 2nd & 3 from the 11. Pushed us way back.	2

Points Left on the field (per game)
Virginia 9
Austin Peay 14
Florida 7 (and 12 opponent)
UTSA 16
USCe 10 (and 8 opponent)
A&M 17

Hypothetical Final Scores
Tennessee 58, Virginia 13
Tennessee 44, Austin Peay 13
Tennessee 23, Florida 13
Tennessee 61, UTSA 14
Tennessee 51, USCe 12
Tennessee 37, A&M 13

Please let me know if you remember any others!

I will add Texas A&M later today.

I am done with my "Points Left on the Field" thread. I've quoted it above. Pretty interesting to see where we'd be if we made fewer mistakes.

 

[Glitch]

Ok folks. It is Thursday and we don't have a game thread. I am getting a little tweaky....

 

[Aesius]

Looks like the Michigan State faithful have concocted their own “Meyerumors”

 

[eVOLve]

I am done with my "Points Left on the Field" thread. I've quoted it above. Pretty interesting to see where we'd be if we made fewer mistakes.

We have shot ourselves in the foot for sure but if things transpired in our favor on those plays, the entirety of the game thereafter would be totally different.

 

[engineerVOL]

Ok folks. It is Thursday and we don't have a game thread. I am getting a little tweaky....

Do it, embrace the chaos that ensues.

 

[GVol1966]

The coward doubled down and then set his twitter account on private

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Him and his sister look happy together

 

[Glitch]

Looks like the Michigan State faithful have concocted their own “Meyerumors”

Quality coaching search going on at MSU. Complete with airport stalking and tail number searches. Only thing that could round it out into a classic would be to toss some Grumors on the fire and let the monster come alive!!!

 

[Glitch]

Do it, embrace the chaos that ensues.

I have a family. If we were to lose, there would be some idiot that would find out where I live and stalk me or them.

 

[engineerVOL]

Quality coaching search going on at MSU. Complete with airport stalking and tail number searches. Only thing that could round it out into a classic would be to toss some Grumors on the fire and let the monster come alive!!!

Rookies.

 

[Adam Sandler]

The coward doubled down and then set his twitter account on private

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Yikes. That’s just uncalled for. Never wish a major injury on someone.

 

[SugarCC]

With this clown on social media, posting about Bowers, I hope Vol twitter is chewing him a new one, more than anyone...

 

[Govolsman98]

With this clown on social media, posting about Bowers, I hope Vol twitter is chewing him a new one, more than anyone...

He needs to be silenced

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I can agree with this. Good points. What I will say is hopefully we have more consistent QB play next year. This team with consistent QB play and better receivers next year will be hard to beat.

Agreed, I honestly think Joe is a bad fit for this system.

The best QBs for what we do imo are either accurate guys with a good enough arm to hit deep, or QBs with a great RPO IQ. You don’t have to be a 4.4 guy to make it work, but knowing when to keep those hurry up RPO calls is huge for opening up deep ball shots.

Hendo was good in both areas and elevated a team above their talent/depth level last season.

 

[Ashevolle]

Does a spliff count as a cigar for purposes the Tennessee Alabama winner's tradition? Asking for a friend.