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Smokey123 said:
Actually it wasn’t even that even… Definitely was heavily in Tennessee’s favor. Bama had 11 more penalties for 100 more yards iirc
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No it absolutely was not.

There was not a single penalty called on Bama last year that was not a penalty. The officials actually spotted Bama a crooked TD when they called PI on our defender in the endzone, when the Bama WR pulled that DB to the ground by the back of the jersey. Everybody with eyes and a brain saw that was offensive interference. The review, where the Birmingham office participates remotely, upheld the flagrantly false call. That made the game closer than it would have been.

If you want to see photos, I have them. For example the PI that Bammaws were crying about and calling fake, where the Bama DB has one arm around the WR's waist pulling him away from the ball. Or would you prefer to see video evidence of uncalled personal fouls, such as To'o To'o kicking Hooker in the head when HH is trapped in a pile?

Citing the totals doesn't tell the story. It's incredibly misleading to simply cite that number from last year implying some unspoken justification of the wholesale racketeering we witnessed yesterday.
 
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UTProf said:
We've been getting lousy officiating all year. I don't think Sankey is putting the screws to us though. The SEC ref'ng corps (for want a of a better descriptor) has been trash for decades. It's years of bad hiring practices coupled with zero accountability. The mistake was allowing the SEC to muzzle coaches completely. While it makes sense that you don't want your coaches undermining officiating constantly, we instituted a policy that allows bad officiating to flourish because it's never called out by those with the experience and knowledge to do so. The SEC won't change it without pressure and real pressure will never come without authorative voices speaking on the issue. Fans will simply be written off as fans.

However, we need to do a better job at hiring, training, credentialling, and retaining officials. Too much money is on the line for Bubba who once played for X school and needs the money to get the job solely based on your cousin Jim Bob's recommendation. Further, officials should be reviewed at the end of every season - retention should not be automatic/nearly automatic but instead based on performance. The jobs need to be full time - we have the money - and there needs to be consequences if an official or crew is repeatedly lacking in performance.

There'd still be human error and plenty of it but at least it would show a good faith attempt at fixing the conference's officiating woes.
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I agree with all this, but what happened yesterday wasn’t just bad officiating.

A bad high school crew would of seen a couple of holds in the 21 times Milroe dropped back to pass.
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The 41 times Milton dropped back to pass their DB’s would of been called for holding or PI a time or 2.

They knew their roll and did it well!!
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Eh, that stat is skewed a little. PI's and holds were fairly even, Bama had 9 false starts or delay of games that skewed the numbers.
Procedural penalties arent really objective like others are.
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While I agree it wasn’t as lopsided as the stats show, it was still in our favor. They had 6 pre snap penalties tho, not 9. They got called for PI 4 times including one that saved the game for us and Holding 3 times. The PI on Rucker in the end zone shoulda been OPI tho

It wasn’t as lopsided as yesterday imo
 
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Smokey123 said:
While I agree it wasn’t as lopsided as the stats show, it was still in our favor. They had 6 pre snap penalties tho, not 9. They got called for PI 4 times including one that saved the game for us and Holding 3 times. The PI on Rucker in the end zone shoulda been OPI tho

It wasn’t as lopsided as yesterday imo
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9 was a number I saw on twitter yesterday is why I went with it, I wasn't sure the exact number. But yes yesterday was worse because everything was basically ignored. I was actually shocked at how well they cleaned up the communication and we didn't have any pre snap penalties until late.
 
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Orange. said:
No it absolutely was not.

There was not a single penalty called on Bama last year that was not a penalty. The officials actually spotted Bama a crooked TD when they called PI on our defender in the endzone, when the Bama WR pulled that DB to the ground by the back of the jersey. Everybody with eyes and a brain saw that was offensive interference. The review, where the Birmingham office participates remotely, upheld the flagrantly false call. That made the game closer than it would have been.

If you want to see photos, I have them. For example the PI that Bammaws were crying about and calling fake, where the Bama DB has one arm around the WR's waist pulling him away from the ball. Or would you prefer to see video evidence of uncalled personal fouls, such as To'o To'o kicking Hooker in the head when HH is trapped in a pile?

Citing the totals doesn't tell the story. It's incredibly misleading to simply cite that number from last year implying some unspoken justification of the wholesale racketeering we witnessed yesterday.
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I don’t care about seeing pictures. I’ve watched the game at least a dozen times. You can find a “flag” on literally every play if you try to. Take off the orange glasses, if you were a bama fan last year you’d be on their forums writing paragraphs how the refs are against the tide. Just like their fans did

Nobody is justifying the debacle last night lol
 
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Smokey123 said:
While I agree it wasn’t as lopsided as the stats show, it was still in our favor. They had 6 pre snap penalties tho, not 9. They got called for PI 4 times including one that saved the game for us and Holding 3 times. The PI on Rucker in the end zone shoulda been OPI tho

It wasn’t as lopsided as yesterday imo
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Why are you lying about last year's game? It's crazy talk. You mean this PI.
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He has his other arm wrapped around his chest, but I can't find that view at the moment.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
9 was a number I saw on twitter yesterday is why I went with it, I wasn't sure the exact number. But yes yesterday was worse because everything was basically ignored. I was actually shocked at how well they cleaned up the communication and we didn't have any pre snap penalties until late.
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Assuming this website is correct

www.al.com

Deeper look at Alabama penalty issue, search for accountability

Alabama's committed more penalties than any team in the nation.
www.al.com www.al.com

Letting undisciplined aggressive teams play overly aggressive without getting penalized will always result help the team we’re going against sadly. Yea I agree I thought we’d have a lot more delay of games and false starts
 
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Smokey123 said:
I don’t care about seeing pictures.
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Allergic to evidence.
Smokey123 said:
...You can find a “flag” on literally every play if you try to.
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You are vividly justifying everything that happened yesterday in that remark. It's the atomic bomb of claims and wants to justify anything. All-purpose. It is wholly beside the point.
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Take off the orange glasses,
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WTF is wrong with you? You are really all in on justifying yesterday's racketeering.
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if you were a bama fan last year you’d be on their forums writing paragraphs how the refs are against the tide. Just like their fans did
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No I would not. But you yourself are playing the bama fan on our board today. Pathetic.
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Nobody is justifying the debacle last night lol
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You are insinuating it simply evened out last year, which is a lie. And an extremely weird flex. If you are too stupid to understand that you are implying an equivalent, that's on you. There is no other reason to bring up your false account of last year in the present context.
 
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GVol1966 said:
You’re blind or didn’t watch.
I just watched the replay. 1 tipped, 2 high and 1 two yards in front of the WR .
But go ahead and keep making excuses for something that happens every game.
Was the fade to Webb his only option? No
Was his pass to the middle his only option? No.
Playcalling? Run up the middle don’t work because the O line gets pushed back, run around the end don’t work because we don’t block outside defenders , passes rarely work because most are not on target or we don’t make a play and catch it.
I guess they could call something different and we could add that to the list that aren’t executed.
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Clearly you don't know what you talking about. We ran the ball with some success the 1st half including Sampson running for two first downs on 3rd down on our first Redzone drive.

On the fade route to Webb, the other WRs literally didn't run a route on the play. But he had other "options" smh.

Again, playcalling particularly situational playcalling has been bad and not creative this year. I trust Heup will do better to close out this season. We need improvement from all 3 phases of the team including coaching.

GB🍊.
 
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