Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Glitch]

So does this mean we can bring the orange helmets out of the closet of shame?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Don't stop believin...

believing sours the experience

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Why not?

Because the words integrity and honor are a damn joke to those who lack them.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

believing sours the experience

You are a true believer Jack...they depend on folks like you.

 

[Orangeburst]

Yeah. I preach no texting while behind the wheel all the time. But being parked for 3.5 hours on the interstate would have been really boring without the handy-dandy iPhone.

Just messing

 

[drvenner]

Doesn't mean he shouldn't be the first one to go. Love what Kersh has meant to and done for the franchise, but I don't really see what he adds at this point. Wasting a roster spot in addition to a pitching spot for the sake of sentimentality is not smart management.

Why don't you all talk about how the Dodgers are going to do in the World Series instead of all of this offseason hot stove stuff? Oh. Wait. Sorry.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Your post was moronic. Maybe you didn’t reread it.

It’s moronic to you because it’s common sense.

 

[VolGee4]

i thought the refs were trash but i don’t agree with everyone talking about some of the holding calls… The one/two i have seen posted against Baron should have been called…. Having decent positioning and having a fist full of jersey is what we teach lineman to do from youth leagues on up… It is the defensive players job to keep the lineman from getting their hands on you.

There was at least one on Pearce and Harrison. What about the non-calls against Castles in the endzone, Webb in the endzone, and Squirrel on the last pass play?

It is the defensive players job from keeping the OL from getting on you inside the body. But when they reach and grab outside the frame of the body, it.....is.....an.....easy.....call.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Unfortunately, Beamer was not able to buy signals this year leading to a precipitous decline in results.

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

 

[VolGee4]

Lol is this from a fan blog or what? Just wild speculation being treated as a “likely” scenario. And points to LSU beating Bama….at LSU…at night…by 1 point….in OT. And the justification is bc LSU lost on the road to A&M.

Did Michigan Football share information on the Vols and Tigers with the Gamecocks? Is that how those two teams managed to lose to that program, one that, again, was left for dead?

The loss was clearly devastating for both teams, so it seems likely.

None of that may be true at all. But frankly, it doesn't matter. It shows how sign stealing could have bigger ramifications than just for benefitting one team. I had never really thought about how him recording signs could affect a team they never played. But even the possibility of it being true is an eye-opener.

 

[engineerVOL]

What exactly was being stolen by this guy?

 

[BigSteve09]

I hope that reporters are turning his phone, email, and any other forms of comms inside out.

It really wouldn't surprise me at all if he had connections at other schools that he was flipping his prep work to, especially considering he didn't need his Tennessee or Clemson work.

 

[BigSteve09]

Lol is this from a fan blog or what? Just wild speculation being treated as a “likely” scenario. And points to LSU beating Bama….at LSU…at night…by 1 point….in OT. And the justification is bc LSU lost on the road to A&M.

Did Michigan Football share information on the Vols and Tigers with the Gamecocks? Is that how those two teams managed to lose to that program, one that, again, was left for dead?

The loss was clearly devastating for both teams, so it seems likely.

don't get in the way of morans with a theory!!

 

[drvenner]

For the last couple of years people have been expressing concerns over NIL and the effect on the integrity of the game. IMO, league offices that enable certain "premier" teams to thrive in the name of ratings and money, the increase in online gambling, and this deal about sign-stealing are more of a threat. I know some of you get tired of hearing this, but even at our HS level we have people that offer to film opponents sideline to gather information. We have other people who are so-called "handlers" who will entice kids to transfer in for a finder's fee. Getting ridiculous. Just prepare your team to perform to the best of your ability and play the DAMN game. You shouldn't need extra information, help from officials and governing bodies, or anything else to determine an outcome. If you do, don't act shocked when your players lack integrity in their personal lives and careers.

Great post. Sadly, I think the days of just play the damned game are long gone.

 

[drvenner]

So does this mean we can bring the orange helmets out of the closet of shame?

I will stab you in the eye.

 

[drvenner]

What exactly was being stolen by this guy?

Integrity and fair play.

 

[Chuckie]

Why don't you all talk about how the Dodgers are going to do in the World Series instead of all of this offseason hot stove stuff? Oh. Wait. Sorry.

Unless you are a Rangers or Dbacks fan and I've missed it, zip it!

 

[Rishvol]

Would anyone not put it past Michigan to give signals to South Carolina in hopes of derailing Tennessee and Clemson’s playoff chances?

They knew they wouldn't have beat Tennessee

 

[Volsdeep4]

Did not have conspiracies on my VN card but I’m diggin it.

 

[knoxvol52]

With money the SEC has, $750 million in fiscal 2022, and the stage in which this is set. I would say 0 screwed up calls. However, in reality - of the calls made - I would say 1 gaffe per game would constitute a well officiated game.

The inherent issues are:
-Relative low paid employees @$58K
-Overly complex, archaic, and contradictory rule sets with overly broad definitions
-Little to no accountability for job performance
- Little to no control over the 'human factors) ie biases. Attorneys cross examine jurors for these biases.

I would think that with 8K TV, cameras at every angle, and an NFL War Room - tested and proven - that there are ways to improve the game. I dont think there is a conspiracy against TN, really.

But, if officiating is so poor that it is noticeable during 100% if games, theres an issue. There should never be a 105-5 disparity between any teams.

Well there will never be a game that officials don't miss at least 3 to 4 calls..it's humans were depending on...the conspiracy theory all goes back to Sankey and Saban...I still ask if Sankey allows Saban to manipulate the SEC...Why in the world would SEC schools vote to give Sankey a contract extension in June..?

 

[drvenner]

Unless you are a Rangers or Dbacks fan and I've missed it, zip it!

Thank you. This retort made my day.

 

[Chuckie]

Somehow I never knew that SCjr didn't score a single offensive point the week before playing essentially a perfect game against us. Things that make you go hmmm.

 

[GVol1966]

alabama scored 27 points in two quarters.

tennessee's veteran dl got manhandled.

And by Manhandled you mean they got held on every play and got a flag thrown on zero plays

 

[drylo]

I could see it, Michigan probably wanted one less loose end in terms of cfp competition, plus Beamer got in trouble in 2018 for sign stealing

*reads first part of post, prepares witty response*

Good thing they got us out and TCU in.

*reads rest of post*

Wait, Beamer has already been in trouble for sign stealing?

 

[engineerVOL]

So does this mean we can bring the orange helmets out of the closet of shame?

We never had orange helmets, those were peach.