Recruiting Football Talk VII

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#39,906
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LA Vol said:
Bama expects to get away with anything because that's the precedent. Nothing sticks to them. They'll keep doing what they're doing until enough people get hurt and the SEC is forced to stop them. Bama and UGA are cash cows. Other teams could be, but it's harder to get there than to stay there, especially when facing unfavorable scheduling. It will be hard to dethrone Saban or Kirby, which has given UT a very difficult path. But not impossible with UT's resources.

UT knows it has to take what it wants on the field. Sankey only stood with UT at the NCAA hearing because it was self-serving. CJH, Barnes and TV have put the SEC on notice-- we're coming. The unified support across UT's marquee sports is no accident-- that's the plan.
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When you have a well oiled machine, why should you throw a wrench into a wheel if you’ve got a mechanic on speed dial? I know cheesy. Okay, Tennessee isn’t quite the cash cow as those two. Bama will continue business as usual until they don’t. It’s frustrating to face two powerhouses 🤮. BUT, your words ‘We’re coming’. AND we are. As far as Heupel, Barnes and Vitello, it reminds me of the Flulmer, Summitt and Pearl trifecta.



Excuse me folks. I originally misspelled Pat Summitt in my original post. I corrected it and now have to bury my head in shame.
 
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Orange. said:
Bama committed an atrocious targeting penalty on Hooker in the 2021 game, as you recall. It was clearly intentional targeting intended to injure HH so severely that he couldn't continue. And the Birmingham SEC crew fully endorsed the behavior by refusing to call the blatant foul.

The SEC's ongoing rigging of outcomes is beyond a shadow of a doubt resulting in short- and long-term injuies to student athletes. And risking player safety every week. It's criminal.
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Fwiw, that did not happen to Hooker in 2021 Bama game. That happened to him against Ole Miss.
 
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SoilVol said:
If Tyler Baron had done that to Jalin Milroe it would've been targeting and a league-issued suspension.
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What if it were the third or fourth time that Baron had done it to a different QB? And he had just done it this time to a Heisman candidate like Tua or Bryce Young? Because that is what Saban teaches, tolerates, and rewards, with the SEC office crews covering for him. That is how many times Turner has done this minimum. And how many times has Bama done this overall?

Turner should be permanently suspended, Bama sanctioned and penalized for the pattern of intentional behavior, and Saban sanctioned running a lawless program that practices intentional injuries.

Telander was mugged in our game this year. The Bama guy had his whole hand under his facemask and twisting his neck back and around in apparent an effort to break it. Telander was surrounded by a number of Bama players who had illegally left the sidelines for the purpose of surrounding and threatening. This was on the exact play when Birmingham showed "how precisely they follow rules" by calling the nitpicky fair catch signal of Telander's. Yet they don't call a vivid attack and assault after the whistle.

Look at the thug Bama WR who assaulted a TN coed last year, and Saban excused it and blamed the female victim for scaring his football player, and then had his mouthpiece Sankey sanction and punish TN for Bama's assault. It's criminal.

The Birmingham Office is endangering players and bringing shame and disrepute on the sport and its member schools by operating as a thug cover up for Bama. I hope LSU and Jayden's and his familty has had enough of it.
 
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SoilVol said:
Fwiw, that did not happen to Hooker in 2021 Bama game. That happened to him against Ole Miss.
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No, it was Bama. And because the Birmingham Office crew rewarded Bama with a crooked no-call, it served as notice that Hooker would be endangered with the officiating crew's blessing for the remainder of the game.

Coop told the story in August.

Everyone who was not brainwashed on the spot by the TV crew was outraged at the time. But it was Bama and everyone in the league has so long suffered the double-standard that people somehow have resigned themselves to it. I do not.

That was another clear example of how the Birmingham Office has a long standing practice of intentionally endangering player safety for the cause of rigging outcomes in Bama's favor. That also should have been a player ejection.

Moreover, learning from the Birmingham Office in the Bama game what is tolerated against Tennessee in that clear example, Georgia repeated the act a few weeks later, with a dirty hit on Hendo in the opening minutes, which Birmingham also no-called. That should have been yet another player ejection. And again the Birmingham office served notice that it was open season on the opposing quarterback for the duration of the game for the sake of Birmingham's desired outcome. To repeat, Birmingham rigging outcomes is a grave danger to student athletes safety.

Now maybe there was yet another similar instance in the Ole Miss game. That game was clearly stolen by the Birmingham officials, as well.
 
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Orange. said:
No, it was Bama. Because the Birmingham Office crew rewarded it with a no-call, it served as notice throughout the game that HH would be endangered with the officiating crew's blessing for the remainder of the game.

Coop told the story in August. But everyone was outraged at the time. But it is Bama and everyone in the league has long suffered the double-standard, so people somehow just accept it. I do not.

Another clear example of how the Birmingham Office has a long standing practice of intentionally endangering player safety for the cause of rigging outcomes in Bama's favor. That also should have been a player ejection.

And learning from the Birmingham Office what is tolerated against Tennessee in this clear example, Georgia repeated the act a few weeks later, with a dirty hit on Hendo, which Birmingham also no-called. Which should have been yet another player ejection. And again serving notice that it was open season on the opposing quarterback for the duration of the game. Birmingham rigging outcomes is a clear and grave danger to student athletes safety.

Now maybe there was a like instance in the Ole Miss game. That game was clearly stolen by the Birmingham officials, as well.
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I just rewatched Freak's posting of that game. I may have missed a no-call hit but he wasn't knocked out of the game (which is what I interpreted you to be saying).

Agree with everything else.
 
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SoilVol said:
I just rewatched Freak's posting of that game. I may have missed a no-call hit but he wasn't knocked out of the game (which is what I interpreted you to be saying).

Agree with everything else.
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I didn't say he was knocked out of the game. What Cooper said is that Hooker was so tough and determined that he played through it. What I said was
Bama committed an atrocious targeting penalty on Hooker in the 2021 game, as you recall. It was clearly intentional targeting intended to injure HH so severely that he couldn't continue. And the Birmingham SEC crew fully endorsed the behavior by refusing to call the blatant foul.
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Saban teaches and rewards this kind of despicable behavior. It's yet another way Saban cheats with impunity. The Birmingham office endorses and promotes this intentional mayhem by its no-call policy. Birmingham makes it possible.
 
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butchna said:
He doesn’t WAIT to get what he has in top form…immediately! Took what was a sieve under Friend/Pruitt and got increasing production every successive season. We heard too long from predecessors that it took time and their own recruits to achieve success with that position group. Same as when he took 3 stars at Mizzou and roadgraded us. He keeps teaching and the quickest studies get on the field. Frustrating as it is for us recruiting fantasy football experts, the fact that an Ollie Lane who hung around for six seasons, starts over a four star redshirt freshman is testament to the pragmatic, result’s oriented system that encourages patience. If you’re the best on the roster, you’ll play! Whether Sid and Mortimer at VirginCampsdotcom coronated you with a suitable number of stars or not. Heup and Ellarbee are a package deal dating back to their time at Mizzou. Heup knows his OL coach will get the best and most ready big uglies on the field AND PRODUCING stat, while teaching and developing their successors at the same time…culture stuff. He’s followed him to every HC stop and to “concern” yourself that he’s replaceable is an exercise in time mismanagement. But don’t stop on my account. 😎
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‘While teaching and developing’ is key here. Oh, lest I forget producing. Most folks don’t know. OLine has to be a cohesive unit when they work together and are comfortable with each other. That’s why we missed Coop at the first of the year.
 
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LSU should hold Jayden Daniels out of its game this week and talk about the dirty hit and the way Birmingham promoted and covered for it, and the fact that Turner has done this repeatedly because Bama does this kind of thing with impunity. And that it amounted to the Birmingham Office rigging the outcome to advance its preferred playoff team at the expense of brutalizing a Heisman candidate. Tell it before the game. Tell it to the sideline reporter. Tell it in post game. Let's have this out.

Tell the simple truth that Birmingham endangers player safety as a matter of policy to control which of its teams advance to the playoffs.

Let Texas and Ole Miss confirm it. They have both had their QBs intentionally injured by Saban's same Bama player in order to determine game outcomes. With zero response from the Birmingham office.

Birmingham needs to suspend Turner for the remainder of the year. And sanction Alabama.

The Bama player who tried to break or severely injury the neck of the LSU offensive lineman on the same play needs to be suspended for next week.

The Bama players involved in the assault on Telander need to be suspended. It doesn't matter if it was a couple of weeks ago. Birmingham has proven that it can post hoc suspend a player. In fact, they have proven that they can do anything they want.

Apparently Birmingham is going keep at it until a player is paralyzed or worse on the field. One doubts they would stop even then.
 
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I think Jayden's family should file a lawsuit against the SEC Office. Let that come after LSU raises hell, then secondly Texas and Ole Miss join in verifying similar treatment and risk to player safety. The lawsuit would be the third wave.

And for the love of all that is just, let the Knoxville media grow a pair and document the assault on Telander. That was egregious and a major no-call. It would have marched the play spotted at the 4 right out to the 19, at the least. The 34 if the posse of Bama players who left the sideline to illegally participate was also flagged, as they merited. So ticky tacky one way, a complete blind eye turned the other way.
 
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Orange. said:
Just ban Dallas Turner: he should be done permanently. Sankey does whatever he wants: he has no excuse but his criminal bias holding him back. No need to counter that it's not permitted: rigging games is not "permitted," but it happens every week. Birmingham is a completely lawless regime.

Birmingham, as I continue emphasize , is endangering player safety with its game rigging. Perhaps Daniels' family should sue. It's apparently is going to require something like that, since Birmingham has all member schools in s stranglehold, and there is no one else to appeal to.

Not only do you have the Turner assault on Daniels. You have all the Turner illegal hits and deliberate injuries permitted in the past that encouraged this latest assault. And, as usual, Birmingham encourages dangerous and illegal play by refusing to call it on Bama. Clearly Saban teaches dirty play, and even excuses his players assaulting coeds. Let Birmingham and Tuscaloosa be sued together. They're joined at the hip, anyway.
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Brando has me blocked. I only found out because I went to see this post. I've never responded to Tim on anything and would've agreed with him. It kinda pisses me off too given that I've done nothing at all to warrant being blocked by anyone at all on twitter.
 
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UTProf said:
Brando has me blocked. I only found out because I went to see this post. I've never responded to Tim on anything and would've agreed with him. It kinda pisses me off too given that I've done nothing at all to warrant being blocked by anyone at all on twitter.
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The last time I saw Tim Brando a few days ago he was stanning aggressively for Harbaugh and claiming, basically, that while it was within the B1G commissioner's power to assess a penalty against Michigan since the NCAA won't, he should not because Cam Newton years ago was allowed to play in a title game.

What post were you looking for?
 
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Orange. said:
The last time I saw Tim Brando a few days ago he was stanning aggressively for Harbaugh and claiming, basically, that while it was within the B1G commissioner's power to assess a penalty against Michigan since the NCAA won't, he should not because Cam Newton years ago was allowed to play in a title game.

What post were you looking for?
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The BAMA one. I can read it here. It's just that he's blocked my twitter handle from even viewing his posts. It's frustrating because I've done nothing wrong and twitter is important for sports news and such.
 
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UTProf said:
The BAMA one. I can read it here. It's just that he's blocked my twitter handle from even viewing his posts. It's frustrating because I've done nothing wrong and twitter is important for sports news and such.
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My bad: #39,882. It didn't register with me at the time that he was the source. That was a great tweet by Tim Brando. I have no idea why you would be blocked.
 
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