Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Orange.]

Banks couldn't scheme to cover Granny Clampet. He is in way over his head.

She's shifty. And Eli May is distracting with that pre-snap motion.

 

[berryvol]

It’s a great new floor when it was the ceiling from 2008-2021!!!

Don’t disagree. But saying this is the floor is a bit naive. If we played TAMU on the road, that’s likely a loss. We own UK, but that wasn’t a shoo in win. I agree that this isn’t a bad season and that the last two years, in a vacuum, are excellent for our recent history. But there are issues this staff has to address moving forward if they want to have longevity at a SEC blue blood.

 

[BigOrangeGoose]

I mean, it's been the plan with his family from the beginning, so, yeah, he kind of is here to redshirt....

You think he was planning to be here for 5 years? I don’t. Play behind Joe this year, start next two and go to NFL. I don’t think you try and preserve a redshirt. That is pointless imo

 

[VolMike16]

He's only been a HC for 5 of those 3 right?

Josh Heupel put up numbers at every stop he's been. Alex Golesh was a freaking TE coach at Iowa St when Heupel was at Mizzou. I'm not even factoring in his OU years. He's not the reason for CJH's success

 

[BigOrangeGoose]

Paid 8 mill for a qb......and played Milton all season. Pissed away an entire year for a kid who's gone 3 years after HS. 8 mill for 2 seasons.

This. Not saying he should have started from the get go, but they should have played him more

 

[Smokey123]

Don’t disagree. But saying this is the floor is a bit naive. If we played TAMU on the road, that’s likely a loss. We own UK, but that wasn’t a shoo in win. I agree that this isn’t a bad season and that the last two years, in a vacuum, are excellent for our recent history. But there are issues this staff has to address moving forward if they want to have longevity at a SEC blue blood.

Yea definitely isn’t the floor. We played a terrible OOC team, SEC was down this year and got lucky vs A&M

 

[PKT_VOL]

It's easy, you know you need him, you don't make promises you don't intend to keep.

Refer back to point #2.

He doesn't sign here. Instead of talking about respecting his wish to redshirt, we are pulling our hair out hoping and praying Heupel can recruit a stud (unwanted) QB from the portal for next year.

 

[Weezer]

You think he was planning to be here for 5 years? I don’t. Play behind Joe this year, start next two and go to NFL. I don’t think you try and preserve a redshirt. That is pointless imo

Not pointless if it's what the family wants.

 

[KB5252]

we have a stud on the bench…. nc castles is pretty good as well

Who is this stud and why is he on the bench?

 

[engineerVOL]

Yeah not sure what that’s about.

Was bemoaning this in the game thread. Halzle or Heupel are over thinking things. Wright had 2 carries until the last drive of the first half. This offense is stupid and not working.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

You know this how again?

29 points allowed in Swamp, 26 in the first half. Billy went full clock burn mode in 2nd half or they would’ve scored 40.

Bama, it’s Bama

Mizzou scored 36, 530 total yards and had the ball 40 minutes…

Georgia, it’s Georgia

And Joe played a nearly perfect game against Bama.

 

[Garren04]

Best case scenario to end the season is Nico plays some vs Vandy and gets the start in a bowl game vs USC

 

[Devo182]

I'm starting to wonder about this whole narrative of heupel being an offensive guru.

Correct.

I always question a coach's prowess immediately, even those that just literally had the #1 offense in the entire country for the first time in my team's entire school history. Prolly just got lucky calling plays blindfolded. Especially when he ONLY averages 40 ppg in his career. Pathetic.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Refer back to point #2.

He doesn't sign here. Instead of talking about respecting his wish to redshirt, we are pulling our hair out hoping and praying Heupel can recruit a stud (unwanted) QB from the portal for next year.

That's fine, if your program is in a spot where you need a kid to play day 1, keep recruiting until you find one. If you cam afford to redshirt the kid then do it.
We needed a FR QB that could play day 1 this season.

 

[Orange.]

Hate to see their QB get hurt like that, but I've been saying FSU is overrated for weeks.

Yeah, but they are ahead of Bama, so they are one of my teams.

 

[headhunter15]

If you're a queasy person don't look for the video, it's worse than Bru's

Absolutely.

 

[BigOrangeGoose]

Not pointless if it's what the family wants.

How do you know the family said that? If they did then so be it. I don’t get that tho

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I'm starting to wonder about this whole narrative of heupel being an offensive guru.

More stuff I said last week.
SEC coaches are good they've already adjusted, Heup is going to have to figure things out or it doesn't matter who is QB.

 

[engineerVOL]

Not pointless if it's what the family wants.

It’s pretty pointless.

 

[PKT_VOL]

That's fine, if your program is in a spot where you need a kid to play day 1, keep recruiting until you find one. If you cam afford to redshirt the kid then do it.
We needed a FR QB that could play day 1 this season.

You realize that would be a QB without Nico's talent, right?

You act like like there are Nicos growing on trees and you just need to find one that doesn't want to redshirt. Walk outside and touch the grass.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

You realize that would be a QB without Nico's talent, right?

You act like like there are Nicos growing on trees and you just need to find one that doesn't want to redshirt. Walk outside and touch the grass.

You pretend we need Nico. There are a ton of HH out there what's more important is building depth and sticking recruiting classes. This years season should've been dominated by FR playing, then next year they're experienced sophomores with FR rotational pieces, so on and so forth.
Not this trash Heup did this year.

 

[VOLED]

You think he was planning to be here for 5 years? I don’t. Play behind Joe this year, start next two and go to NFL. I don’t think you try and preserve a redshirt. That is pointless imo

I would be shocked if he is still here in year 5.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Imagine sitting Travis Hunter because he isn’t a upperclassman

 

[Orange.]

I saw a long interview with Dobbs here last night, which was really good. (Thanks, @SmokinBob #46,585.) And, interestingly, all these years later, Dobbs brought up that he was told twice that he could redshirt and both years he was not allowed to.

The question iirc was about him overcoming adversity. He didn't sound in the least sour about, just being factual. The rest of his response was about the NFL. But that was the first case of adversity on his (chronological) list.

Dobbs apparently believes, not without reason, that being lied to about redshirting -- twice -- hurt him in the NFL.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Imagine sitting Travis Hunter because he isn’t a upperclassman

Imagine a player like Hunter wanting to sit.