Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Gilbert]

I'm super worried about our OL recruiting and development at this point.

Me too. Staff loves Vysen Lang though. Still have to hit on a lot more.

 

[engineerVOL]

Cheeze-it made a Citrus bowl UT joke and it backfired.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Never have I been more happy to own a frozen bag of corn.

 

[Vol423]

Cheeze-it made a Citrus bowl UT joke and it backfired.

Link?
How did it backfire?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I'm super worried about our OL recruiting and development at this point.

Elerbe leaves a lot to be desired in that department. I’ve been saying it for a while.

It’s year three and we were still rolling with Ollie lanes and Dayne Davis types for depth, and are hoping beyond hope that covid guys etc stay for a 5th or 6th year because none of the young guys we’ve brought in are close to being ready.

Yet when you express concern when we take another low ranked kid with a mediocre offer list as a commitment, the cheerleaders on this site jump on you like Elerbe is some great coach.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

All of this BAMA/FSU stuff has distracted us from what we should be doing.... posting UGA tears.

I'm not sure there are any good tears yet. . . I think they're still in shock from being #1 to not making the playoffs in a matter of hours, .

 

[Gilbert]

Who have they missed on?

Pretty much everyone except Vysen Lang, they think (just high schoolers). Nobody else will likely meaningfully contribute.

 

[UTProf]

I'm not sure there are any good tears yet. . . I think they're still in shock from being #1 to not making the playoffs in a matter of hours, .

True. Also FSU getting snubbed has taken attention away from the fact they were snubbed too.

 

[jave36]

Tell the undefeated Auburn team that had to watch “the two best teams” play for the championship.

The bcs rankings had nothing to do with that. The 2 team playoff system was the issue there.

 

[UTSuave’]

you ain’t done enough little bro…Hopkins will give you a 2 piece with a biscuit..Levis is bold

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/03/will-levis-deandre-hopkins-heated-moment-titans?fbclid=IwAR2DwFOAr8R3AhoFGDuPyFgBptGcjUBAs8PiOMurjYWXp_X9JhGa_a0aHrM_aem_AdIoUgIDSEiswkXWxlsW45wRBQQNhFH21bQ_6HSBchyBzg73BXDOqcg4vAAoHSD3Sd4

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I’m the only one, but I wish he would move to TE. Use him like Fant.

Never been a fan of him at WR

 

[MarcoVol]

Pretty much everyone except Vysen Lang, they think (just high schoolers). Nobody else will likely meaningfully contribute.

Way too early to say that about Sham or anyone in the ‘23 class.

 

[swchandler1988]

I'm super worried about our OL recruiting and development at this point.

Darnell Wright
Cooper Mays
Gerald Mincey
Spraggins
Carvin
Hell, Lane and Davis

All developed well under Elarbee

Mincey
Crawford
Campbell
4* Sham
4* Lang
a top juco Larry Johnson
4* Bennett Warren
4* Max Anderson
4* William Satterwhite

All recruited by this staff. Can you give me a reason you think they don’t develop or recruit well?

 

[butchna]

The bcs rankings had nothing to do with that. The 2 team playoff system was the issue there.

The SYSTEM is the subject matter being discussed. It wasn’t BETTER when the BCS decided it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Addison Nichols has entered the portal

premature

 

[butchna]

Had high hopes for him. Saw multiple poster alluding to him not giving effort.

All problems solved.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Darnell Wright
Cooper Mays
Gerald Mincey
Spraggins
Carvin
Hell, Lane and Davis

All developed well under Elarbee

Mincey
Crawford
Campbell
4* Sham
4* Lang
a top juco Larry Johnson
4* Bennett Warren
4* Max Anderson
4* William Satterwhite

All recruited by this staff. Can you give me a reason you think they don’t develop or recruit well?

if you find an answer let me know

 

[Devo182]

Next year, I want better defined criteria with a clear hierarchy of factors, I want them consistently applied week-to-week, season-to-season, and I want public defenses of their decisions to be specifically connected to those criteria.

Very respectfully, F that middle ground. They've shown they'll pick and choose based on the brand names and preconceived notions from year to year. Even a 2 loss team can be expected to be better than an undefeated, full of close-wins, conference champ. But that team 100% deserve a chance to be proven wrong.

Fire them all and set up a system like pro leagues. Make it in or not based on hard parameters, not this thing where a bunch of professors and trampoline park owners get to use their (completely full of years of media biased-induced) opinions of who is best...which they determined 11 months ago and needed an excessive amount of proof to move those teams off their chosen high-seats. On the other side, the perceived lesser teams had to have twice the accomplishments.

"Best 4 teams" OPINIONS are stupid as the sole factor. Vandy could go beat Bama by 1 point...back to back...and Bama would still be 2+ TD favorites. Who cares?!? You play the games for a reason.

Imagine if the NFL did this shiz and just put in 6-10 patriots in every year...because they must be good!

 

[butchna]

Elerbe leaves a lot to be desired in that department. I’ve been saying it for a while.

It’s year three and we were still rolling with Ollie lanes and Dayne Davis types for depth, and are hoping beyond hope that covid guys etc stay for a 5th or 6th year because none of the young guys we’ve brought in are close to being ready.

Yet when you express concern when we take another low ranked kid with a mediocre offer list as a commitment, the cheerleaders on this site jump on you like Elerbe is some great coach.

 

[Devo182]

if you find an answer let me know

tbf they didn't start out recruiting well, but still developed like heck.

Now the recruiting is coming around as well

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Darnell Wright
Cooper Mays
Gerald Mincey
Spraggins
Carvin
Hell, Lane and Davis

All developed well under Elarbee

Mincey
Crawford
Campbell
4* Sham
4* Lang
a top juco Larry Johnson
4* Bennett Warren
4* Max Anderson
4* William Satterwhite

All recruited by this staff. Can you give me a reason you think they don’t develop or recruit well?

The fact that you had to reach for guys like Lane, Davis and Mincey just to have names to include.

Youre literally just naming names of guys who played regardless of if they played well.

But go off.

 

[Devo182]

TB says about a year ago Walter Nolen reached out to Tennessee asking if he could come here. We said “Sure” and he said “How much will I get?” And Rodney Garner essentially said “You’ll get developed”. Apparently Garner was never super high on Nolan in the first place so we saw no need to make a big $$ offer.

Also...Rodney sure as hell can't talk about paying. He isn't stupid. "Here's the number to a friend...call him for marketing opportunities"

 

[swchandler1988]

The fact that you had to reach for guys like Lane, Davis and Mincey just to have names to include.

Youre literally just naming names of guys who played regardless of if they played well.

But go off.

Nope. They literally developed two guys that were walk ons to guys that were impactful. But go ahead and pick on the two names you know are a “reach”. Weak

 

[Jimmy Football]

Very respectfully, F that middle ground. They've shown they'll pick and choose based on the brand names and preconceived notions from year to year. Even a 2 loss team can be expected to be better than an undefeated, full of close-wins, conference champ. But that team 100% deserve a chance to be proven wrong.

Fire them all and set up a system like pro leagues. Make it in or not based on hard parameters, not this thing where a bunch of professors and trampoline park owners get to use their (completely full of years of media biased-induced) opinions of who is best...which they determined 11 months ago and needed an excessive amount of proof to move those teams off their chosen high-seats. On the other side, the perceived lesser teams had to have twice the accomplishments.

"Best 4 teams" OPINIONS are stupid as the sole factor. Vandy could go beat Bama by 1 point...back to back...and Bama would still be 2+ TD favorites. Who cares?!? You play the games for a reason.

Imagine if the NFL did this shiz and just put in 6-10 patriots in every year...because they must be good!

I mean, yeah…but they’re not even gonna accept my meager suggestion, much less reorganize the whole sport in a way that makes sense.

They’d view my suggestion as asking for the moon, and yours as asking for the galaxy.