Recruiting Football Talk VII

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So we're losing like 6 in the secondary, it already sucked, and at this point we still have Banks and Willie here gonna be calling soft zone all next season with what talent?

Spyre is looking like snake oil salesmen, not doing crap... calling BS on them until they prove me otherwise.

Speaking of snake, if Boo is calling Seaton his boy and gonna flip, then he is deliberately running one of the biggest games on UT, but making it too obvious. He doesn't seem that dumb, but who knows... If he's calling Seaton slime, then he knows everyone is seeing it, so surely he's getting questioned left and right. If he trolls us this bad down to the very end and flips, then he better be ready to move outa Chattanooga because he will not be welcome...

Losing Echols to USF is just weak on our staff's part. No excuse unless they turn around and bring in 1-2 stud TE's. Either way not a good look for the program.

Heup and staff, with the guys leaving to the portal, the inability to close in recruiting, dragging our feet in the portal, and our NIL seems to be suspect as hell right now, they are quickly looking like the second stage of Butch Jones and staff... Yep.

And then here will come all those running to Heup's defense "But, But, But..." but what? We lost games we shouldn't have this season, the staff got out-coached by lesser and even opponents regularly by not making in-game adjustments and sticking with older guys when there is younger talent, he stuck with a QB who looked like Tarzan and played like Jane, we are slipping and not closing on the recruiting trail, other programs are stocking up already on portal talent while we are playing grab ass and having play dates/visits... Not looking good today. Very frustrating looking in from the outside.

Will be interesting to see what happens when the dust settles. Very underwhelming year so far for Heup after the first two seasons here. The shine is wearing off it seems, especially to recruits.
That’s it. I personally hate when someone declares that they’re putting someone on ignore, but here we are. You’re number 3. Oh, I know you don’t give a crap and I’m not the sort of person to spout off to a person and not give them the platform to respond. Life is too short to be miserable about a sports team or be a troll. Good luck.
 
Article I read said we’re 12 scholarships between this season and the next two, and we can’t have fewer than two reduced at a time. Not sure how many we played with this season. But, if I were the coaches, I’d try to knock out as many as possible this season and next, and target being down only 2-3 for ‘25, which would mean not hitting the portal as aggressively as we may want and instead being extremely selective.
Extremely selective is fine so long as you actually get them
 
AP on Baron:

He wants to finish elsewhere for a certain NIL number. Can’t fault him for shooting his shot. Tennessee wasn’t willing to go there. One team he is rumored for is Bama and imo they won’t do anymore than TN would but he would rather go play there if it happens to get the Bama rub for the draft. We will see if Bama is indeed the play. Have heard Vandy and Louisville have also made a push for him.
Holy Benedict Arnold he better not go to Bama.
 
There’s not much to get. Mike Norvell saved his career by attacking the portal. Tony V used it to elevate a moribund baseball program to the top tier of the sport.

It’s a valuable tool, but you got to make good evals and you got to attack it. Maybe we are, behind the scenes, but we’ll see.

Edit: oh, and can’t forget about Dorkwitz. The portal helped make that guy a 10-win coach. Dorkwitz!
And let’s not forget about Deion. It made him a 4 win coach.
He attacked it harder than anyone.
 
This guy leaked USC/UCLA to BIG10 a while before it happened

This would put CFB on the same road as NASCAR . We've seen how the generic cars have lost most of their fans. If their not really affiliated with the school or state fandom will slip drastically. Don't see it happening just not enough teams.
 
AP pretty much just laid waste to our TE recruiting.

I cant promise anything. NGL its hard to stay positive about it.
If AP knew what he was talking about this cycle, we'd have a top 5 class. He's missed twice as many times as Abeln has. He might want to consider sitting this one out till after February.
 
Thanks Russell and Joker. You ruined my night. I’m going to have a record for parlays missed by 1.
 

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Trying to understand. People saying we have to have a better result than 8-4 to really expect a top 5ish class. Last season we had that result but people said top 5 was not realistic because relationships are formed and many decisions made when prospects are juniors in HS. Does this mean the conventional wisdom is Vols have to have back to back 10-win seasons before we should expect better recruiting?
 
SIAP, why is Baron looking to transfer elsewhere? He's a starter and star here? Not enough NIL? I mean.... pay him for godsake.
He's made it clear that he doesn't want to be here. Why throw more money at a guy who's got his eyes set on leaving? If your wife says she doesn't love you and is leaving you for someone else, are you going to shower her with money and gifts to try and keep her? Why? She's made it clear how she feels about you. Move on already.
 
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