Recruiting Football Talk VII

[TheRain]

1. Can't review a penalty like that.
2. He was offsides. Toney was literally past the ball.

Understood, I just wanted to enjoy another Bills fans meltdown like back in the day.

 

[Weezer]

No. Some they don’t want to leave are leaving. It’s not all kids being forced out.

Heupel isn’t Dabo swinney, but he isn’t Deion either. He’s probably what most coaches are, something in the middle.

I don't think we're forcing anyone out, but we're not begging them to stay. I'm also not certain there's anyone leaving that we don't want to leave. Maybe Baron, but not even sure on that.

 

[volsfan_17]

I highly doubt they wanted 6 DB’s to leave, especially with two of them being by regular starters.

You keep saying 6 DBs. You're conveniently ignoring the fact that Burrell and Turnage both walked at Sr. Day and weren't expected back to begin with.

That leaves, D.Slaughter, McDonald, Lutrell and Rucker. 2 of which never saw the field, and were potentially recruited over. And 2 others, by most accounts are only playing as placeholders until the younger guys are ready.

I'm yet to see someone leave that can't be replaced. This seems more flawed than your Tony V. to LSU meltdown.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I mean only 1 of the DBs in the portal hasn't spent at least 4 years in college already...they are all just getting in the portal NOW, but I think all were going to grad transfer out. If not for COVID I think all of them would just be graduating.

 

[LA Vol]

I’m not hurt over anyone leaving other than Slaughter. I thought he could be a great safety. But it is what it is.

Let’s go crush recruiting and the portal.

And Baron. But... spilt milk. We just need to be on the right side of the portal-- and we definitely can be.

 

[Christian Lowe]

You keep saying 6 DBs. You're conveniently ignoring the fact that Burrell and Turnage both walked at Sr. Day and weren't expected back to begin with.

That leaves, D.Slaughter, McDonald, Lutrell and Rucker. 2 of which never saw the field, and were potentially recruited over. And 2 others, by most accounts are only playing as placeholders until the younger guys are ready.

I'm yet to see someone leave that can't be replaced. This seems more flawed than your Tony V. to LSU meltdown.

I wouldn’t call it a meltdown. I just don’t think they have some grand scheme and forcing them all out was part of it. We don’t have any DB’s on the board to replace any of those guys. Depth is depth. I’m sure they’d rather have bad players than no players.

 

[volsfan_17]

Not necessarily but I guess time will tell. We’re simply not paying guys because they straight up are no good and they have an over-inflated value of themselves. We aren’t brining in studs to replace anyone to get better overall so I don’t think it’s necessarily the same thing. They could very well be counting on the young guys but they gotta start plugging some holes with experienced players. Something’s gotta give if we want to truly compete for NCs like we say we do.

The portal has been open exactly one week today. Yet, I've seen about 4.3 million posts this week on how Tennessee isn't being aggressive enough. Now that the staff is making room to pursue guys, we don't like that either?

Make up my mind already. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Christian Lowe]

The portal has been open exactly one week today. Yet, I've seen about 4.3 million posts this week on how Tennessee isn't being aggressive enough. Now that the staff is making room to pursue guys, we don't like that either?

Make up my mind already. Can't have it both ways.

That’s the point. Not all of us think they forced everyone to leave.

 

[volbeast33]

You play with the hand you're dealt...

Really surprised me how AF who was GM of Rays and pinched pennies so well...
Came to Dodgers and now is like a kid in a candy store.....

He still excels at small market ideas as well…. pretty good mixture.

 

[Jack Burton]

The portal has been open exactly one week today. Yet, I've seen about 4.3 million posts this week on how Tennessee isn't being aggressive enough. Now that the staff is making room to pursue guys, we don't like that either?

Make up my mind already. Can't have it both ways.

In the last two years we’ve ranked around 40ish in the portal iirc. That is the body of work so far and the reason for the aggressive talk. We need difference makers and could be doing a better job of getting them.

 

[Nuctech777]

And Baron. But... spilt milk. We just need to be on the right side of the portal-- and we definitely can be.

If we can and don’t, I think that’s what most people are worried about. A little early in the cycle to be too worried, but I don’t think patience is a strength around here. It’s really hard to sit here and watch other teams address needs when our NIL is rumored to be better than theirs.

 

[eVOLve]

Fire Kellie Harper, who cares if the old ladies of days gone by get mad. The program as it stands is a disservice to Pat.

Yeah, I can’t even flip on a lady vols game. They always look lethargic and out of shape compared to literally any good team

 

[lilesrt]

I’m glad you said it. Just doesn’t seem like we’re aggressive enough.

Tony Basilio has been banging this drum for a while.

 

[volbeast33]

I wouldn’t call it a meltdown. I just don’t think they have some grand scheme and forcing them all out was part of it. We don’t have any DB’s on the board to replace any of those guys. Depth is depth. I’m sure they’d rather have bad players than no players.

if we wanted to keep them…. we could have done what it took to keep them….. That’s a promising sign.

 

[Christian Lowe]

if we wanted to keep them…. we could have done what it took to keep them….. That’s a promising sign.

I think it’s more neutral. I don’t think we fought tooth and nail for them, but I don’t think we were pushing them out the door either. If that makes sense.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

And Baron. But... spilt milk. We just need to be on the right side of the portal-- and we definitely can be.

Yeah… he was up and down to me. We have recruited well there.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[eVOLve]

I think it’s more neutral. I don’t think we fought tooth and nail for them, but I don’t think we were pushing them out the door either. If that makes sense.

I think this is exactly what’s going on.

 

[DawgInterloper]

IDK what anybody's asking, but in general, many guys have an inflated sense of value and overplay their hand. They see others getting more and think "why not me?" They think they can test the waters and come back if it doesn't work out. Well, it may not work out and nobody's holding their spot.

That wake up call might be the best function of the portal. Players who enter and get stranded are getting an early notice that it's time for a new path forward.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Good player. Make it happen (sooner the better).

 

[volbeast33]

I think it’s more neutral. I don’t think we fought tooth and nail for them, but I don’t think we were pushing them out the door either. If that makes sense.

i take it as….. we were cool with some of them staying but not exactly crying that they are leaving.

 

[LA Vol]

And therein lies the problem. We seem averse to chase the actual difference makers, and content with "depth pieces". I hope that changes. Especially on defense where we could use some more difference makers.

I think the coaches go after a very specific profile with a clear idea of what they need and what that's worth. When some of the big names don't fit that, UT backs off and the guy goes elsewhere. Sometimes, they just miss because a big name prefers another program. Can't win 'em all, but I agree we need to win our share.

 

[JCP201]

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I have had no respect for that reward since ESPN thought it was boring that Peyton was a shoo-in and started pushing for other people.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

If not for COVID, these guys we are losing in the portal wouldn’t even be here next year for the most part. I’m not concerned. We’re losing 1 guy of any real value IMO. Time to see what our young guys can do and I’m sure we’ll add 1-2 portal guys as well.

 

[Christian Lowe]

i take it as….. we were cool with some of them staying but not exactly crying that they are leaving.

My thoughts exactly.