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rikberry31 said:
You can see that Heup has a type for just about every position. I think he considers fit and character above all. He stays away from the drama queens no matter how talented.
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Exactly
Some see UT getting out bid or out recruited, but often, the staff doesn’t deem the player worth it.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
These younger generations don’t know what “work” is…. I got grads working for me that think should be promoted 2-3 levels because they happened to “learn” a skill in 6 months, regardless of mastery. We are (as a society) raising the laziest, “I want it before I earn it” generations that I didn’t even think was possible.
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That was my experience as well before retiring. My boss and I mentored a Vandy grad out of their engineering program in our company. Initially she was great. My boss's boss noticed her as well and began pushing her in front of her peers within the company. She started serving on several technical committees and became known to our top brass people. After her first year all of sudden her getting things done on time became an issue. We were a project management group for the western US and this was a big freakin' deal. Somehow she got the idea what we (her immediate managers) had her doing was not as important as the big wigs asking her to do little side projects for them was. Her father was an executive at Boeing who I had to talk in trying to track her down when she went absent and didn't call in to anyone. He realized the gravity of what was taking place. She got to where showing up on time was casual. Story was my boss and I both retired and her fast track career got side tracked, the bigwigs quit taking her calls and inviting her to work on side projects, and before she had 3 years with the company she was fired. The sky was the limit for her but she took it all for granted, made the cardinal sin of crapping on the job she had when she thought she had a job up the line waiting for her.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Are we still going by avg star rating since every team ahead of us and at least 5 behind us have higher avg star rating, or have we decided we like our point-based #14 ranking better?
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Well, we could always be UCLA, sitting at #68, with their 11 total signees.

Edit: Swansoned. Damn you. @drvenner

 
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SSVol said:
While I understand your point, as an employer I can attest to the fact that there are absolutely differences in the work ethic of different generations. Long term prosperity has definitely had an effect.
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Or people in their early 20s whose most important priorities are entirely selfish lack the work ethic of people in their 40s who have families to care for. It's not a generational thing, but a life stage thing. The 40-60 year olds thought the same about you in you when you were starting out. Those same kids you look down on will look down on the next crop. So on and so on.
 
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Or people in their early 20s whose most important priorities are entirely selfish lack the work ethic of people in their 40s who have families to care for. It's not a generational thing, but a life stage thing. The 40-60 year olds thought the same about you in you when you were starting out. Those same kids you look down on will look down on the next crop. So on and so on.
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It's more than that. There are structural differences that are changing the way you recruit and retain younger generations. I've observed it, but have also had conversations with other business owners (some of them millennial themselves). Boomers value stuff, millennials value experiences. Boomers married young, bought houses, and had kids...younger generations are doing less of all of that, but they like to travel, see things, do things. Many of them see the job as the necessary evil that funds what they really want to do. Boomers were much more inclined to be defined by their careers. Not saying one is better, just different.

And I'm not looking down on anyone. Simply relaying what I've learned in 32 years in business.
 
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SSVol said:
It's more than that. There are structural differences that are changing the way you recruit and retain younger generations. I've observed it, but have also had conversations with other business owners (some of them millennial themselves). Boomers value stuff, millennials value experiences. Boomers married young, bought houses, and had kids...younger generations are doing less of all of that, but they like to travel, see things, do things. Many of them see the job as the necessary evil that funds what they really want to do. Boomers were much more inclined to be defined by their careers. Not saying one is better, just different.

And I'm not looking down on anyone. Simply relaying what I've learned in 32 years in business.
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Fair. I don't mean look down on beyond the impugning of work ethic. I'm an old millennial (early 40s) and am completely different than I was a decade ago. I do think lacking a family or having a family is a major divider between people and their motives. My entire mindset changed once I had two kids.
 
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Ashevolle said:
Or people in their early 20s whose most important priorities are entirely selfish lack the work ethic of people in their 40s who have families to care for. It's not a generational thing, but a life stage thing. The 40-60 year olds thought the same about you in you when you were starting out. Those same kids you look down on will look down on the next crop. So on and so on.
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As a teacher the generation’s work ethic has gradually gotten worse through the years. So if they are looking down on the next crop it’s probably because the next crop is worse.
 
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Ashevolle said:
Fair. I don't mean look down on beyond the impugning of work ethic. I'm an old millennial (early 40s) and am completely different than I was a decade ago. I do think lacking a family or having a family is a major divider between people and their motives. My entire mindset changed once I had two kids.
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That is absolutely a factor, which makes it relevant that youngers are marrying less and having less kids. But is that the cause, or a symptom of changing values? Probably both.

I thought this was funny: everybody I knew got their license the day they turned 16. Most had a car. My 29yo son still doesn't have his license, and obviously has never owned a car, but he's lived in Spain, Taiwan, and Iceland and traveled to a dozen places I can't pronounce. While I was better traveled than many at that that age, many I knew had barely left their state.

Technology, free time, and prosperity have absolutely changed us, just as the Great Depression and several major wars changed my grandparents. It's not one or the other, it's both.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
QB: Iamaleava, Merklinger
RB: Sampson, Seldon
WR: B. McCoy, Leacock
WR: White, M. Matthews
WR: Thornton, Nimrod
TE: Staes, Davis
LT: Campbell, Reddick
LG: Karic, Umarov
C: Mays, Lang
RG: Spraggins, Lampley
RT: Mincey, Bennett

EDGE: Pearce, Josephs
DT: O. Thomas, Eason
DT: Norman-Lott, Bailey
SDE: West, Hobbs
LB: Pili, Telander
LB: A. Carter, Herring
STAR: Jo. Thomas, Harrison
CB: J. McCoy, Matthews
CB: Gibson, Conyer
SS: Ja. Thomas, Turrentine
FS: B. Carter, Charles

KR: Seldon, M. Matthews
PR: White, B. Carter
P: Ross
K: Carver

Something like that.
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