Recruiting Football Talk VII

[BigSteve09]

Charlie Strong and Ken Whisenhunt were analysts at BAMA? Ken Whisenhunt, in particular, surprises me.

I had no idea that Wiz was there. Their break room must have been insane.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[Volnukem]

The Saban coaching rehabilitation center is closed.

This will be an underrated impact on Bama next year. Having that many really good football minds on your staff with a no doubt "head chef" to prevent the "too many cooks in the kitchen" effect, meant they would always have a top tier gameplan and scouting report.

 

[BigSteve09]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

This is absolutely glorious

TWSS

 

[GoodTimeVol]

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Need that such a shame gif lol

 

[csprig9]

Pawl fine bawm is pretty funny

Just saw some of the new coach’s presser and it’s weird how infatuated he was with Saban and wanting him around

 

[knoxvol52]

Really don't understand why Alabama fans would think it would be different..

They seem to forget when Bear Bryant retired they absolutely sucked or was mediocre till Gene Stallings showed up..
Then they sucked till Saban got there, now he is gone they will SUCK again for a few years around 10 is the average..

 

[BearCat204]

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**** em, I didnt hear their cries when they raided rosters for the past 15 years.

 

[BearCat204]

Really don't understand why Alabama fans would think it would be different..

They seem to forget when Bear Bryant retired they absolutely sucked or was mediocre till Gene Stallings showed up..
Then they sucked till Saban got there, now he is gone they will SUCK again for a few years around 10 is the average..

They believe it's their birthright to be special and the best. Majority of thier fanbase has no clue who Ray Perkins was or anyone after Stallings

 

[BigSteve09]

Pawl fine bawm is pretty funny

Just saw some of the new coach’s presser and it’s weird how infatuated he was with Saban and wanting him around

The coach that replaced Bear never talked about him, got rid of his old office/stuff quickly, and tore down Bear's tower that he had at practices. Huge mistake. I'm sure it's a cautionary tale that the boosters or old timers shared with the new coach as soon as he got there.

 

[05_never_again]

Pawl fine bawm is pretty funny

Just saw some of the new coach’s presser and it’s weird how infatuated he was with Saban and wanting him around

2 possibilities there: 1) he's saying that because he thinks he has to, because Saban is so beloved or 2) he's scared to death and really wants/thinks he needs his help.

 

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[Devo182]

Will watch later, but I feel the reel won't/can't do justice to how nuts it was seeing that in real time. The way he'd rush down the court and get it up ASAP with 100% confidence. He was otherworldly for the middle 20.

But I think Barnes was lowkey happy he fell short of 40...keep the fire under him! Long season ahead. Hope he keeps thriving, he is absurd at his best.

 

[csprig9]

The coach that replaced Bear never talked about him, got rid of his old office/stuff quickly, and tore down Bear's tower that he had at practices. I'm sure it's a cautionary tale that the boosters or old timers shared with the new coach as soon as he got there.

It’s weird man
Having him look over your shoulder daily wanting input when your trying to rebuild
They are gonna have to realize Saban was a once in a life timer if not all time
You would think players leaving they would see that

Players went for Saban, not Alabama

 

[Devo182]

Pawl fine bawm is pretty funny

Just saw some of the new coach’s presser and it’s weird how infatuated he was with Saban and wanting him around

Good call. Need to tune in and soak up the tears

 

[csprig9]

2 possibilities there: 1) he's saying that because he thinks he has to, because Saban is so beloved or 2) he's scared to death and really wants/thinks he needs his help.

I think he’s scared to death
I don’t think he realized what he got himself into
He has no recruiting ties down there, his staff isn’t big names, the fans are crazy rednecks, etc

 

[05_never_again]

Really don't understand why Alabama fans would think it would be different..

They seem to forget when Bear Bryant retired they absolutely sucked or was mediocre till Gene Stallings showed up..
Then they sucked till Saban got there, now he is gone they will SUCK again for a few years around 10 is the average..

It's mostly entitlement on their part. However, I think part of the reason they think it this time is because Bear's final season wasn't anything special. Finished the season unranked and .500 in SEC play. Saban, in contrast, kind of pulled a rabbit out of a hat and was a couple of plays away from playing for a national title again this past season.

If Alabama went 7-5 or 8-4 this season, I think many more of their fans would be worried about DeBoer.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Really don't understand why Alabama fans would think it would be different..

They seem to forget when Bear Bryant retired they absolutely sucked or was mediocre till Gene Stallings showed up..
Then they sucked till Saban got there, now he is gone they will SUCK again for a few years around 10 is the average..

Which teams do you remember being championship caliber, losing their coach, then plugging in a new coach without much drop-off?

I'm having a hard time remembering any that were very good with the new coach. Maybe Oregon for a year or 2. UT, Majors to Fulmer, but that is different.

Odds are that Deboer is gonna crash in spectacular fashion within 3-4 seasons. . . it's looking like it could be sooner than that.

 

[JCP201]

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Bama fans having to deal with the reality of the real world now.

 

[05_never_again]

Which teams do you remember being championship caliber, losing their coach, then plugging in a new coach without much drop-off?

I'm having a hard time remembering any that were very good with the new coach. Maybe Oregon for a year or 2. UT, Majors to Fulmer, but that is different.

Odds are that Deboer is gonna crash in spectacular fashion within 3-4 seasons. . . it's looking like it could be sooner than that.

In the modern era, just offhand, I can think of Ohio St (twice, with Urban then Ryan Day) and Oklahoma (Lincoln Riley after Stoops left). Oregon actually stepped up a notch when Bellotti retired and Chip Kelly replaced him, then when Kelly left Helfrich was really good for a couple years before collapsing. If you go further back, Miami did on multiple occasions. If you go even further back, Nebraska transitioned smoothly between Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne.

However, I'm not sure how relevant historical comparisons might be because of the transfer portal. "Coach XYZ inherited a good roster" isn't much of a thing anymore when guys can leave.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Which teams do you remember being championship caliber, losing their coach, then plugging in a new coach without much drop-off?

I'm having a hard time remembering any that were very good with the new coach. Maybe Oregon for a year or 2. UT, Majors to Fulmer, but that is different.

Odds are that Deboer is gonna crash in spectacular fashion within 3-4 seasons. . . it's looking like it could be sooner than that.

Miami maybe

 

[knoxvol52]

Which teams do you remember being championship caliber, losing their coach, then plugging in a new coach without much drop-off?

I'm having a hard time remembering any that were very good with the new coach. Maybe Oregon for a year or 2. UT, Majors to Fulmer, but that is different.

Odds are that Deboer is gonna crash in spectacular fashion within 3-4 seasons. . . it's looking like it could be sooner than that.

Miami Hurricanes from Jimmy Johnson to Dennis Erickson..is the only one I can think of..

 

[SweetasSoda]

In the modern era, just offhand, I can think of Ohio St (twice, with Urban then Ryan Day) and Oklahoma (Lincoln Riley after Stoops left). Oregon actually stepped up a notch when Bellotti retired and Chip Kelly replaced him, then when Kelly left Helfrich was really good for a couple years before collapsing. If you go further back, Miami did on multiple occasions. If you go even further back, Nebraska transitioned smoothly between Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne.

However, I'm not sure how relevant historical comparisons might be because of the transfer portal. "Coach XYZ inherited a good roster" isn't much of a thing anymore when guys can leave.

But didn’t OSU and OU do that with someone on staff? This is a whole new coaching staff and change of style. Will take a while to implement. And the more talent that’s lost the weaker the team becomes.

 

[knoxvol52]

Nebraska has been worthless since Tom Osborne retired or quit..