Recruiting Football Talk VII

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That idiot has a huge flaw in his system...you can't get many clean 3pt looks against great defensive teams...and you are not going to get many at the rim either no matter how much you try and force goofy off balance contested shots...so you have to learn to take what they give you.

If you can not hit clean mid range shots against good-great defenses you are going to get beat when your team has little clue or desire how to play team defense.
 
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Something mustve happened with Kellie. Ultimately she had won 20 games several seasons. One more year wouldnt have killed us. Now you have to hit one someone.

I think this job is bigger than a Marshall hire, personally. If you're gonna spend the money to fire, buyout, and rehire you damn better be willing to go get the best. Otherwise what's the damn point?

I dont care personally, but some do. Just don't get it.

Should stop pretending that the best aren’t already being paid top dollar elsewhere.

What would be the pull for the best to come here? If they’re the best, they’re already King/Queen at their current program and have zero incentive to leave.

You want the next best. And then give them all the resources to succeed.
 
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Offense disappears when they play competent defensive teams

Tennessee shut them down for 9 minutes in Tuscaloosa

Seems if you can disrupt them from getting to their quick scoring spots, they are pedestrian

Wonder if the SEC will figure them out and start beating them regularly sometime soon

Competent? You mean elite. Purdue and Vols were 2 of the elite defenses in CBB this year.
 
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I got my posts deleted for saying basically the same thing. I mean I was trolling hard whereas that poster truly believes that DW is sexist and incompetent as the AD even though our AD is in the best shape it has been in decades due to his leadership.
 
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I bet you thought the football program was bigger that the UCF hire too didn't you?

None of that means squat...the greatest of all time all started somewhere.
I like the idea of a program builder for the LV. Someone who has been at the bottom and created a high level team out of nothing.

If they can win big at a low/mid major, then you can win here. It at least shows that tactically they are a good coach, because that was what was missing with Kellie. Her teams played dumb iso ball.
 
Doesn't the GCU coach have more experience than the Marshall coach? Just curious why we would consider the Marshall coach first if we are going for an up and comer.

Edit: just looked again and they seem very similar.
Also the Marshall coach has won championships and has taken a team to the NCAA tournament, The GCU coach has not.
 
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It’s worse. Won’t matter who it is.

And they’re not even hoping for a home run. They’re hoping the next coach fails, because they’re butthurt over Kellie. It’s pretty damn pathetic.
Totally agree. Unfortunately, we still have folks on here who feel that way about Heupel and probably a few men's basketball "fans" who still feel that way about Barnes.
 
Something mustve happened with Kellie. Ultimately she had won 20 games several seasons. One more year wouldnt have killed us. Now you have to hit one someone.

I think this job is bigger than a Marshall hire, personally. If you're gonna spend the money to fire, buyout, and rehire you damn better be willing to go get the best. Otherwise what's the damn point?

I dont care personally, but some do. Just don't get it.
I'll tell you what happened:

Kellie's team barely made the tournament this year. They had 18 wins to end the regular season. Beating Bama helped their cause and I honestly think the fight against South Carolina solidified their spot if there had been a lot of bid-stealing.

On top of that, they were losing several starters including a first round pick. Despite that, Kellie didn't get a high school recruit last year in a state traditionally loaded with great talent. And I think she had 1 commit this year. She was living in the portal as desperation. Everything was trending down after probably the worst season in program history.

So the question became, do you give her another year, potentially risking a 1 of a kind streak of 20 win seasons and NCAA appearances before you fire her when the position is even less prestigious, or do you fire her now and try to save it.

Not to mention, if you retain her you send a message to the WBB world that WBB at UT isn't important anymore. If you fire her you send the message that the university's athoetic department still holds the program in high esteem and will actively support the next coach instead of not caring.
 
Marshall's NCAA tournament appearance this year was only the 2nd one in school history, the other appearance being in 1997. Also this season was their first season of 20 wins or more since the 2015-2016 season.
All joking aside, I like Kim Stephens. I've always wanted to see what a coach that's had success everywhere they've been to start their career could do here. I made the Urban Meyer firestarter, but it is kinda an OK comparison, as far as being really successful at lower levels/conferences before going to a national power.
 
All joking aside, I like Kim Stephens. I've always wanted to see what a coach that's had success everywhere they've been to start their career could do here. I made the Urban Meyer firestarter, but it is kinda an OK comparison, as far as being really successful at lower levels/conferences before going to a national power.
I remember people saying that he wouldn't be able to recruit in The SEC because he wasn't from the south and that his offense wouldn't work in the SEC either.
 
That idiot has a huge flaw in his system...you can't get many clean 3pt looks against great defensive teams...and you are not going to get many at the rim either no matter how much you try and force goofy off balance contested shots...so you have to learn to take what they give you.

If you can not hit clean mid range shots against good-great defenses you are going to get beat when your team has little clue or desire how to play team defense.
That’s an analytic based system(NBA also believes in doing it that way…. It didn’t work against UCONN as well due to clingum in the middle.
 
UConn all the way, Edey would be worked in 3 on 3 too much spacing.

My 3 Vols (based on who I watched play).

DK, Slay, CJ Watson

I’ll take on this discussion..I’m glad you made a tennessee top 3 because I’d never thought about that just looking at the picture but
(based on who i watched play) Chris Lofton,DK and Ron Slay
 
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