Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[butchna]

4th and 1, vs Florida on the Road. Finally pull the ball, and run out of bounds??

There was another down after this one.

 

[Aesius]

Yeah, it's an interesting situation...

I think this team might be the best Nico plays for while here, the OL experience/talent and the DL experience/depth are big key factors...but I think Nico might be his best version next year or after (if he returns).

With how we've recruited and how the development has gone though there is a chance that the drop off for the LOS next year isn't as big of an impact as assumed, and we've taken full advantage of these 3 early blowouts to play guys that need reps in those 2 position groups.

Gotta imagine Heupel and co. will do well in the portal this offseason to address any immediate needs on the LOS, especially with a playoff berth and Nico returning. I hate to look ahead because this year is already exciting as hell but Nico with a full year of starts under his belt is incredibly intriguing. And potentially playing the entire year battling it out with Arch for the No. 1 draft pick spot.

 

[butchna]

Our oline depth is not great. Injuries to our starters would be a problem.

Our starting LT sat and there was no hitch with Dayne Davis. Karic was out too and nothing. I have a feeling Cooper getting dinged up would not be Florida game catastrophic with William Satterwhite getting reps. Perry may be at least as good as Campbell at RT as a true freshman. The OL doesn’t match the DL in depth, but it’s been impressively upgraded.

 

[triadvolfan]

I'd like to see the difference in number of carries.

Jackson has 2 more carries than Sampson so Jackson's ypc is a half a yard higher.

cfbstats.com - 2024 Southeastern Conference Player Leaders

DeSean Bishop is leading the conference in ypc at 222 yards on 22 carries (excluding those with less than 4 carries per game). That's just a silly stat.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I watched a highlight reel on YouTube that showed every Nico pass against KSU. It was his worst outing by far. I'm not sure if just lost focus because of the opponent or what. His accuracy was off. Not the normal Nico.

Now...

 

[gordonr24]

Gotta imagine Heupel and co. will do well in the portal this offseason to address any immediate needs on the LOS, especially with a playoff berth and Nico returning. I hate to look ahead because this year is already exciting as hell but Nico with a full year of starts under his belt is incredibly intriguing. And potentially playing the entire year battling it out with Arch for the No. 1 draft pick spot.

Arch and Nico are the two best prospects for the draft for the next several years. Both are honestly once a decade type talents.

But Arch, like all of the other Mannings, strikes me as a guy that will want to stay in college longer and get the full experience. Peyton was a 4 year senior and Eli was a 5 year player at Ole Miss. But maybe Arch is different.

The debates between Nico and Arch would be some of the most intriguing pre draft debates ever, if both declare for 2026.

 

[BigSteve09]

Someone said he got juked so bad that he started running like a werewolf

 

[Orange.]

....Y’all only do reactionary, don’t you?....

"Reactionary" does not mean "prone to overreaction." Learn English. Learn history. And stop overreacting.

Your posts are garbage time. Stop dissing Bishop. Take it to the FF or the Kent State board. Our team is more important than your having been wrong.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Gotta imagine Heupel and co. will do well in the portal this offseason to address any immediate needs on the LOS, especially with a playoff berth and Nico returning. I hate to look ahead because this year is already exciting as hell but Nico with a full year of starts under his belt is incredibly intriguing. And potentially playing the entire year battling it out with Arch for the No. 1 draft pick spot.

Maybe, but OL specifically is difficult to just go grab a portal guy to insert. Works fine if ya only need 1 starter type (like Heard this season) but look at Colorado and even Kentucky for examples of the growing pains portal shopping for most your guys can cause.

The good news though last couple classes have been strong for OL

2024:
Warren = 7th highest rated OT, 4 star
Anderson = 16th highest rated OT, 4 star
Satterwhite = 20th highest rated IOL, 4 star
Perry = 55th highest rated OT, 3 star
Ginther = 76th highest rated IOL, 3 star


And the 2025 class is stacked too
Sanders Jr. = 1st rated OT, 5 star
Utu = 4th rated OT, 4 star
Moore = 13th rated IOL, 4 star

 

[SpringBokVol]

Would Heupel going back to Oklahoma be similar to if Tee Martin was a great head coach (let's say at Auburn) that had a fire offense and outstanding defense and brining that team into Knoxville and beating the snot out of the Vols...

Because that would suck!!!! LOL

 

[Butch Jones]

Maybe you should worry about Arky State their Butchy.

Nothing to worry about with my squad. 2-1 with a loss to the reigning national champ.

 

[BigSteve09]

I want to pull the cover off the Lambo and see this machine hit 4th gear+

So ready to smoke Oklahoma and have decent film for everyone to study in the bye week, then come out ready to maul the meat of our SEC schedule

 

[jmacvols1]

What's with these effing amateurs?????

Oklahoma's stadium has a few issues...

 

[SpringBokVol]

What would be the weakest part of our offense in your opinion? Not that any part is really that weak, but in comparison to the whole?

Is it QB, just because there is still growth to be had? Is the situation really that good?

I would still say it is pass protection. Run blocking is outstanding, Pass Pro can be suspect at times and leads to less than desired QB play.

 

[Go Fight Win]

Maybe, but OL specifically is difficult to just go grab a portal guy to insert. Works fine if ya only need 1 starter type (like Heard this season) but look at Colorado and even Kentucky for examples of the growing pains portal shopping for most your guys can cause.

The good news though last couple classes have been strong for OL

2024:
Warren = 7th highest rated OT, 4 star
Anderson = 16th highest rated OT, 4 star
Satterwhite = 20th highest rated IOL, 4 star
Perry = 55th highest rated OT, 3 star
Ginther = 76th highest rated IOL, 3 star


And the 2025 class is stacked too
Sanders Jr. = 1st rated OT, 5 star
Utu = 4th rated OT, 4 star
Moore = 13th rated IOL, 4 star

our staff is over the moon excited about '24. not a miss in the bunch, a few massively underrated

'25 even better

 

[butchna]

I flushed their season before the AS break. They need to address some things in an awful way. Everyone’s gonna us the injuries as a scape goat but they had stuff to address before opening day and chose not to so…. Snit gonna Snit and AA gonna allow it.

AA got a Cy Young winner out of the bargain bin and before I shade Snit, I remember the name Freddi Gonzalez…it helps.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I expect that we're gonna see some variations in the play designs that we've already ran. Like the shovel pass and the sideline throws. I think we're gonna see several new formations altogether. No trick plays out of them, just a new look no one has seen yet.

I think we will see a lot of the same formations but different things run from them... it's the genius behind Heupel. Show the formations, get a lot of film on tape and then sneak in a wrinkle and gash them with it.

I also think Oklahoma will think their base defense will be good enough to stop us so they will be stubborn until it is too late.

 

[butchna]

our staff is over the moon excited about '24. not a miss in the bunch, a few massively underrated

'25 even better

Perry may end up the best of the ‘24 bunch.

 

[knoxvol52]

It was either them or the dang Cowboys

That's because the Cowboys bring ratings for FOX. Whether you LOVE the Cowboys or HATE them most of America is tuned in to watch.

 

[TrippieRedd]

What's with these effing amateurs?????

NO. INJURIES. PLS

 

[Butch Jones]

What's with these effing amateurs?????

Just play all backups. We'll still win by 3 scores.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

So, Seldon still questionable, wonder if he'll be available this game or not?

At this point just let him rest and let him be ready for Arkansas in 2+ weeks.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

What's with these effing amateurs?????

Anyone think this is intentional in preparation for our game? Did they see what happened with the terrible field conditions at SCe 2 years ago? This isn’t the time of year to already be losing the field. Not enough stress or cold weather yet.

 

[BigSteve09]

he's ready

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Guys and gals, my family and I have been at the ER for most of the night (my mom and brother are still there, and Im about to head back that way). Any prayers you could send up, and any love you can spare is greatly appreciated.

My 85 year old granny fell last night and broke her hip; and, they're doing surgery later on. As you know, I've been living with and taking care of both her and my mom for the last 3 years, helping them both beat cancer. I was back here in my part of the house, and heard her land in the kitchen (that's how hard she hit, that i was able to hear it from my room), then she screamed something terrible. I ran in there and my heart broke. It was the most awful, most pitiful thing I have ever experienced. She was/is in bad shape, and in an extreme amount of pain.

She just got past being sick...beating breast cancer here in the last bit, and doing so with a broken back; yeah, she's been through the ringer the last few years. I just took her Friday for tests, after she felt another lump in the other breast. The radiologist said it didn't look like anything to be concerned about, fatty tissue or such; she has her Dr's appointment, for the actual results, coming up. However, the contrast she drank for the MRI broke her out from head to toe, and she was itching something fierce Friday night into Saturday; she was feeling somewhat better from that yesterday, before she fell last night.

Anyway, again, please keep her in your thoughts, if you will. She's a trooper, and one of the toughest gals I've ever had the pleasure of knowing...if anyone can get past this, and come out stronger than ever on the other side, at her age, it's my granny. I'm a hardened pipeliner, who's worked underground and around heavy equipment for most of my life, and I believe what she's been through, and going through, would've killed me. I'm not even joking! She's BEYOND tough as nails.

Absolutely this household believes in the power of prayer, as we are a prime example of it. The good Lord has been amazing to us, and blessed us abundantly. He's seen us through time and time again.

Thank you all, and hope you have a safe/great day.