Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Big 12 has three contenders. BYU, Iowa State, and Kansas State.

Iowa State has zero ranked wins and only plays Kansas State that is ranked. Maybe Utah can beat them also. They face their two toughest games the final two games and a conference championship if they win those. They would need to be 12-1 to get in IMO.

Kansas State lost to BYU and has zero ranked wins. They would need to beat Iowa State and win the conference championship to get in. We should probably root for them to do this.

BYU has only one ranked win against Kansas State and only one tough game left against Utah. They will more than likely be undefeated going into the conference championship. If they play Iowa State in that game, there is a chance both get in. If they play K-State, then only one get in.

We need all of them to get upset, or we need BYU to run the table and Kstate to beat Iowa State.

1 gets in and possibly two leaving a max of 4 spots and a minimum of three spots left.
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That conference as a whole is a joke…any one loss team should get the boot…BYU is the only real competitor here and even they’re suspect if they come across a team with a high scoring offense..
 
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That leaves the SEC.

We obviously have Georgia and a tricky game against Vandy left. At a minimum we need to go 10-2 with a close game against GA IMO. If we lost 2 and made the SEC championship, we'd need to win that game for sure to get in.

Georgia has us and Ole Miss. If they stumble once, they could still get in. They are in the same position as we are.

Ole Miss needs to win out against Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida, + an SEC championship to get in. The Kentucky loss hurts them along with zero ranked wins.

LSU needs to win out and win a conference championship IMO. They have Bama, Florida, Vandy and Oklahoma left. They are in the same position as Ole Miss without a ranked win.

Texas and Texas A&M are in the same spot. They both have 1 loss. They play each other in the last game of the season. That will be an elimination game. I also think the winner of that game might get in regardless of the SEC championship. I hope they both get upset or 1 is in IMO.

Bama has one tough game left against LSU. I fear we need LSU to win or Bama will get in without playing in a conference championship. If Bama loses, they're out. If they win, i fear they are in. The media will not leave them out with the win against Georgia (especially if GA wins the SEC).

So it pains me to say this but I think Bama has the easiest path if they beat LSU. I think the winner of Texas and A&M will be in. That leaves 1-2 spots left. Betting money would be on Georgia. If we beat Georgia, we're in and same the other way around. If 4 from the SEC get in, we will have a great shot at 10-2 if the loss is close.
 
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UTSuave’ said:
That conference as a whole is a joke…any one loss team should get the boot…BYU is the only real competitor here and even they’re suspect if they come across a team with a high scoring offense..
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I could make the argument that the ACC and the Big 12 are a joke. Both should only get one in as a wild card. I would argue that Notre Dame should already be out of it with a loss to NIU. I would also argue that the BIG 10 should only get 2 max in. That conference is terrible with a down USC and Michigan. Unfortunately, I do not believe they will want 4-5 SEC teams in regardless of the fact that the SEC deserves just that.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Other playoff teams ACC.

Miami has zero wins against ranked teams and does not play a ranked team until the conference championship.

Clemson plays Pitt in three weeks and that will be their only other ranked opponent outside of Georgia (who slaughtered them).

Pitt plays SMU this weekend and plays Clemson in three weeks. Pitt has not played a ranked opponent this year.

SMU has a loss to BYU and has not beaten another ranked team. They still have Pitt on the schedule.

Miami is more than likely in the playoff even if they lose the conference championship. The question will be if Clemson, Pitt, or SMU will join them.

Along with the Big 10, that's 5 playoff teams and only 7 spots left.
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After this season and the terrible teams in the playoff get maimed and the games have been turned off at half-time and have terrible ratings, the automatic bids for conference champions and G5 teams will be gone.
Last season they got it right by keeping FSU out. No one should have to watch any ACC team, Big 12 team, or any other of these middle school teams play, all in the name of equity and inclusion. Remember TCU.
Everybody loves a Cinderella team or David vs. Goliath, but they can't be manufactured or faked. Make no mistake Cinderella was a real babe and David was a hard azz farmer who was a great shot, both legit.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I could make the argument that the ACC and the Big 12 are a joke. Both should only get one in as a wild card. I would argue that Notre Dame should already be out of it with a FCS loss. I would also argue that the BIG 10 should only get 2 max in. That conference is terrible with a down USC and Michigan. Unfortunately, I do not believe they will want 4-5 SEC teams in regardless of the fact that the SEC deserves just that.
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ACC the last few years has been a 1 or 2 team horse race..same could be said for the big 12 it hurts them the most since Texas left..the big ten is Ohio st and Michigan. both are suspect with Michigan on a slow decline…those conferences are beyond watered down and that alone should make the committee take any credible win into some serious consideration when these teams are picked..
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
That leaves the SEC.

We obviously have Georgia and a tricky game against Vandy left. At a minimum we need to go 10-2 with a close game against GA IMO. If we lost 2 and made the SEC championship, we'd need to win that game for sure to get in.

Georgia has us and Ole Miss. If they stumble once, they could still get in. They are in the same position as we are.

Ole Miss needs to win out against Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida, + an SEC championship to get in. The Kentucky loss hurts them along with zero ranked wins.

LSU needs to win out and win a conference championship IMO. They have Bama, Florida, Vandy and Oklahoma left. They are in the same position as Ole Miss without a ranked win.

Texas and Texas A&M are in the same spot. They both have 1 loss. They play each other in the last game of the season. That will be an elimination game. I also think the winner of that game might get in regardless of the SEC championship. I hope they both get upset or 1 is in IMO.

Bama has one tough game left against LSU. I fear we need LSU to win or Bama will get in without playing in a conference championship. If Bama loses, they're out. If they win, i fear they are in. The media will not leave them out with the win against Georgia (especially if GA wins the SEC).

So it pains me to say this but I think Bama has the easiest path if they beat LSU. I think the winner of Texas and A&M will be in. That leaves 1-2 spots left. Betting money would be on Georgia. If we beat Georgia, we're in and same the other way around. If 4 from the SEC get in, we will have a great shot at 10-2 if the loss is close.
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The weird scenario for us is if we beat UGA and find a way to slip up against the fighting Pavias. We’d jump into top 4-5 if we beat UGA but I think the committee is just looking for any excuse to remove us from contention and an unranked Vandy loss would do it I believe, even if we beat UGA.
 
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Kentucky looks similar to a team we've already faced...

Offense:
26.0 points scored 246.9 passing yards per game & 106.4 rushing yards per game
19.1 points scored 166.1 passing yards per game & 141.8 rushing yards per game

Defense:
31.1 points allowed 241 passing yards allowed & 143.4 rushing yards allowed
19.9 points allowed 178 passing yards allowed & 132.4 rushing yards allowed

NC State has a better offense in scoring/passing, but Kentucky has a better defense across the board. Not sure if we'll score 50+ but I think a similar outcome is likely if we execute as expected. 30/40 scored and give up 10-17
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Kentucky looks similar to a team we've already faced...

Offense:
26.0 points scored 246.9 passing yards per game & 106.4 rushing yards per game
19.1 points scored 166.1 passing yards per game & 141.8 rushing yards per game

Defense:
31.1 points allowed 241 passing yards allowed & 143.4 rushing yards allowed
19.9 points allowed 178 passing yards allowed & 132.4 rushing yards allowed

NC State has a better offense in scoring/passing, but Kentucky has a better defense across the board. Not sure if we'll score 50+ but I think a similar outcome is likely if we execute as expected. 30/40 scored and give up 10-17
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Kentucky has a shot at going 5-7 and that would be absolutely hilarious
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I could make the argument that the ACC and the Big 12 are a joke. Both should only get one in as a wild card. I would argue that Notre Dame should already be out of it with a FCS loss. I would also argue that the BIG 10 should only get 2 max in. That conference is terrible with a down USC and Michigan. Unfortunately, I do not believe they will want 4-5 SEC teams in regardless of the fact that the SEC deserves just that.
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I think the most that any conference gets in is 3. That’s why I think we have to win out the reg. season and make it to the SECCG. They’d have a very difficult time leaving the loser of the SECG out of the CFP unless it was that team’s 3rd loss.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
Maybe it’s the 45 year old in me talking but everything about that video except actually attending the game looked like an excruciatingly bad experience.
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Careful Raleigh, you'll be pegged a 'realist.'

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VolNRaleighNC said:
The weird scenario for us is if we beat UGA and find a way to slip up against the fighting Pavias. We’d jump into top 4-5 if we beat UGA but I think the committee is just looking for any excuse to remove us from contention and an unranked Vandy loss would do it I believe, even if we beat UGA.
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How do you even come to this conclusion when the first CFP official ranking hasn’t even dropped yet?
 
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