Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#68,627
jave36 said:
Of course they push narratives. But that doesn't mean there's no logic in what they did. The committee ranking isn't just about the playoff. They had a goal (to rank teams according to how good they believe each one is, not by their past performance) that doesn't just involve the top 4 teams. If that's all they cared about, they wouldn't even do rankings beyond the top 4. By dropping us for losing Hooker, they set the stage for what actually mattered for the playoff the very next year when they dropped FSU. They were showing consistency in dropping teams for losing starting QBs.

It's very logical to say "our goal is to rank the teams according to how good we think they currently are not just what they did in the past," and then to drop someone in the ranking for losing a starting QB. That's textbook logic: state your criteria and then apply that exact criteria to your decision.

You just can't get past your own bias to see it because you believe so strongly that they shouldn't be trying to prognosticate on who is the better team, they should just look at the resume only.
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Logic is defined by a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration. Just because they state a criteria and apply that criteria does not mean it’s logical. “Science” is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world through systemic methodology based on evidence.

So, they throw out the hard evidence of head to head wins and records and throw in that we “feel” the team isn’t as good with the backup QB. So, that alone overcomes and outweighs the hard evidence when the hard evidence would clearly lean to UT being the higher ranked team. All committees have the subjective “out” to choose what they want to use to include teams. Additionally, in this age of opt-outs, they most certainly can’t project what the teams will look like in bowl games outside the playoff. That’s even more of a reason not to use subjective reasoning outside what was the top 4 at the time.

No point in discussing it anymore though. I’m sure others are tired of it. But wait for it to continue to happen. The networks will be the mouthpiece for what they want.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Logic is defined by a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration. Just because they state a criteria and apply that criteria does not mean it’s logical. “Science” is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world through systemic methodology based on evidence.

So, they throw out the hard evidence of head to head wins and records and throw in that we “feel” the team isn’t as good with the backup QB. So, that alone overcomes and outweighs the hard evidence when the hard evidence would clearly lean to UT being the higher ranked team. All committees have the subjective “out” to choose what they want to use to include teams. Additionally, in this age of opt-outs, they most certainly can’t project what the teams will look like in bowl games outside the playoff. That’s even more of a reason not to use subjective reasoning outside what was the top 4 at the time.

No point in discussing it anymore though. I’m sure others are tired of it. But wait for it to continue to happen. The networks will be the mouthpiece for what they want.
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And people say we don't debate in the RF.

 
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#68,648
bignewt said:
but you spend so much time in THE STAR bathroom?

I mean its scrubbing them, but still you should have time to really dig in.
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I’m not in that building. And when I was, they had more than ONE. 😏
 
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