Recruiting Football Talk VIII

#76,676
#76,676
InVOLuntary said:
Its not the players. It's the scheme. Trying to get to the qb with 4 against 7 blockers doesn't work. You can have an NFL secondary and when you back off or give the qb time to read war and peace while having a peanut butter and jelly sandwich before he throws, the recievers win 99% of the time. When you never change your scheme and keep letting the other team gash you in every phase, you won't win. I just hope he doesn't cost Heupel his job.
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ok He is not costing CJH his job. I don't understand the lack of adjustments and this scheme can have blitz because we have seen plenty of that in past years when we had a less talented DL. It is not as much of the scheme as the play calling within it. Like I posted before, no adjustment. It is fine to rush 4 against 7 if you are getting to the QB. Some teams it may work. Why he was so dang stubborn last night, I have no clue. I think Josh keeps his hand out of the D and lets them work. However, I would have had to ask, why don't we dial up some pressure blitzes and tell him to. Regardless, he is the boss.
 
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#76,678
JacketVol said:
ok He is not costing CJH his job. I don't understand the lack of adjustments and this scheme can have blitz because we have seen plenty of that in past years when we had a less talented DL. It is not as much of the scheme as the play calling within it. Like I posted before, no adjustment. It is fine to rush 4 against 7 if you are getting to the QB. Some teams it may work. Why he was so dang stubborn last night, I have no clue. I think Josh keeps his hand out of the D and lets them work. However, I would have had to ask, why don't we dial up some pressure blitzes and tell him to. Regardless, he is the boss.
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There's already people saying he's our Mark Richt. You know as well as I do as progress is made, expectations rise. Fans won't be happy with 9-3, 10-2 without challenging for championships as time moves forward. Last night wasn't an anomaly. It's a pattern. If he can't get pressure with 4, he has nothing to counter. He's not multiple as Josh said they would be. His defenses are about as vanilla as can be. It's been 4 years and he's not all of a sudden become something different.
 
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#76,681
InVOLuntary said:
There's already people saying he's our Mark Richt. You know as well as I do as progress is made, expectations rise. Fans won't be happy with 9-3, 10-2 without challenging for championships as time moves forward. Last night wasn't an anomaly. It's a pattern. If he can't get pressure with 4, he has nothing to counter. He's not multiple as Josh said they would be. His defenses are about as vanilla as can be. It's been 4 years and he's not all of a sudden become something different.
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Hopefully, welll, it'll....IMG_5936.gif
 
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#76,682
InVOLuntary said:
There's already people saying he's our Mark Richt. You know as well as I do as progress is made, expectations rise. Fans won't be happy with 9-3, 10-2 without challenging for championships as time moves forward. Last night wasn't an anomaly. It's a pattern. If he can't get pressure with 4, he has nothing to counter. He's not multiple as Josh said they would be. His defenses are about as vanilla as can be. It's been 4 years and he's not all of a sudden become something different.
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Do not be surprised if Banks gets a HC job after this year. As far as behind the 8 ball we were when he got here, he is in year 2 of 10 when compared with CMR. Ten years seem to be the lifespan of most coaches these days. I will tell you this. Danny White expects progress AND championships but he is also patient and wise and knows when is the time to move and not to move. The folks saying he is our Richt are the same who have no clue about football and coverages etc that we see on here. The only people who matter in this are not on this board. The only person who will have input on having him let go are happy and understand where we were, where we are, and where we want to go.
 
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JacketVol said:
Do not be surprised if Banks gets a HC job after this year. As far as behind the 8 ball we were when he got here, he is in year 2 of 10 when compared with CMR. Ten years seem to be the lifespan of most coaches these days. I will tell you this. Danny White expects progress AND championships but he is also patient and wise and knows when is the time to move and not to move. The folks saying he is our Richt are the same who have no clue about football and coverages etc that we see on here. The only people who matter in this are not on this board. The only person who will have input on having him let go are happy and understand where we were, where we are, and where we want to go.
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It won't be as big of a loss that people think it is if he goes. He's OK, but he's not aggressive enough to field a top SEC defense.
 
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JacketVol said:
Do not be surprised if Banks gets a HC job after this year. As far as behind the 8 ball we were when he got here, he is in year 2 of 10 when compared with CMR. Ten years seem to be the lifespan of most coaches these days. I will tell you this. Danny White expects progress AND championships but he is also patient and wise and knows when is the time to move and not to move. The folks saying he is our Richt are the same who have no clue about football and coverages etc that we see on here. The only people who matter in this are not on this board. The only person who will have input on having him let go are happy and understand where we were, where we are, and where we want to go.
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Money always drives coaching changes. As long as the seats are in demand and the money's flowing, he's going nowhere. As to Banks, I'm not sure he's getting offered a head coaching job making more money than he does here. I'd be surprised if he got that big of a job.
 
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VolNash17 said:
It’s just disappointing, Georgia without many key starters on OL, RB, Defense and receiver still can’t even get it within 10 points. That’s why everyone’s frustrated Vols have got to do an offseason review of some sort to make it to that elite program level. Starts with recruiting.
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Yep. UGA was very beat up on offense and we still couldn’t get it done.
 
#76,693
#76,693
mr.checkerboards said:
It won't be as big of a loss that people think it is if he goes. He's OK, but he's not aggressive enough to field a top SEC defense.
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You are off your rocker. We are gonna finish 10-2. The MAIN reason for that is the defense. The UGA game was bad. But my goodness, tell me the last time we went an entire season with only one team scoring 20 or more points on us? Our defense has been at the top of the SEC nearly all year. You have no clue what you are talking about.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
So WR arent good.

Anyone know if Chaz is hurt? Seriously, 5 pts against Pea? Not being a dick. I am starting to be concerned, as we heat toward better teams.

Is verticality a word?
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Did you watch the game? Lol

Igor was cooking and ZZ didn’t miss a shot until a half court heave to end 1st half.

We scored 103 and shot 64% FG, Chaz just didn’t have to or need to force the issue.
 
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#76,697
mr.checkerboards said:
Debateable

We gave up 1200 yards to Arky, UK and MSST, besides UGA going for 450 last night.
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It’s good, not great.

The two teams you mentioned above are also top 40 in total yards per game (UGA and Arky)

Lost to both. Bama is in the middle of both and we at least beat them, buttttttttt that was also at home.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
It’s good, not great.

The two teams you mentioned above are also top 40 in total yards per game (UGA and Arky)

Lost to both. Bama is in the middle of both and we at least beat them, buttttttttt that was also at home.
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It just shows we've kind of been lucky. The dam was going to break eventually
 
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#76,699
mr.checkerboards said:
It just shows we've kind of been lucky. The dam was going to break eventually
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Well that, and it shows we struggle against top ranked offenses which the committee will look at.

“Can UTs defense hold up and win them back to back games in the playoffs?”

Every team that’s gonna be in the playoffs is ranked higher in total yards per game than any team we’ve played against. (Other than Arky)
 
#76,700
#76,700
Really comes down to road vs home. Georgia on the road isn’t the same as them in Athens. Every team is like this, Bama lost both games on the road.

It’s damn hard to win on the road in the SEC. And Nico isn’t Hooker. As a team we’re better and despite breaking in a first year starting QB we are sitting at 8-2. Georgia got some breaks in the 2nd half we didn’t and it snowballed.

My biggest concern is despite how good the DL is we simply haven’t been able to get sacks enough.
 
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