Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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knoxvol52 said:
Illegal touch is when a receiver goes out of bounds and touches the ball first. The official made the wrong call , it should've been ineligible receiver downfield. ,

I could be wrong and honestly who cares it was against Alabama..
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You are wrong. If an eligible player touches a forward pass then it is illegal touching. It was an atrocious call but I don’t car cause Bama.
 
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For those of us who are veterans of Schiano Sunday, today’s Dan Wolken column is particularly sweet. Apparently John Currie’s PR sock puppet is starting to realize that God’s Gift to Coaching might actually suck, even at the school where he made his reputation originally:

Rutgers: Icing the kicker is one of the dumbest concepts in sports, yet coaches fall for it all the time. Coaches like Greg Schiano. Leading Illinois 31-30 with 12 seconds left, Schiano called a timeout right before Illini kicker Ethan Moczulski went into his motion for a 58-yarder that missed badly. Given more time and evidence to re-evaluate his decision, Illinois coach Bret Bielema sent the offense onto the field and scored a game-winning touchdown on the next play.


Was it a fluke? Probably. But can you blame Schiano for a bad decision that led directly to disaster? Absolutely. These are the little things on the margins that change seasons, and Rutgers comes out on the wrong side of them too often. Since Schiano came back to Piscataway in 2020, he’s 12-32 in Big Ten play. It’s one thing if you’re losing to the league’s heavyweights but holding your own against everyone else. That would be a respectable existence for a program like Rutgers. But you can’t go 20 games under .500 in a league like the Big Ten unless you’re losing a whole lot of winnable games.


Nobody would say Rutgers is an easy job, but the whole point of bringing Schiano back was that he had a unique understanding of how to navigate the challenges there. From 2005-2011, he arguably overachieved as much as any coach in college football to consistently win eight or nine games a year under difficult circumstances. Now, he’s just treading water while losing way too often against programs of similar resources.

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College football Misery Index: North Carolina faces Mack Brown problem if coach won't leave

Mack Brown has been an outstanding college football coach, but it's not working at North Carolina, which is why the Tar Heels lead the Misery Index.
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jave36 said:
You nailed it. Which is why my point is that the official needed to throw the flag as soon as the pass was thrown. By waiting for him to catch the TD to throw the flag, he opens himself up for accusations that he was just looking for an excuse to take the TD off the board. If he REALLY believed Williams was covered up, he'd have thrown the flag as soon as the pass was thrown.

I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories, I think SEC officials are just incompetent because it's a good ole boys network instead of merit-based. But gross incompetence can lead to accusations of corruption because sometimes it looks the same. Though I definitely think corruption does happen, just not on a grand, organized scale at the league office level.

I think this guy was ball-watching because he's not a good official, and he belatedly remembered to throw the flag after the touchdown because he was so caught up in seeing if the deep bomb would be caught. But he puts himself in the position to be accused of point shaving by not being good at his job.
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I bet he was also persuaded into throwing a flag by the OU sideline. Another hallmark of a bad official.
 
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DeepPurpleFloyd said:
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Such a good show
 
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The real issue is nothing in the rule book is written in a way that doesn't require interpretation.

From the 2023 NCAA Rule Book (2024 isn't available freely online so that's why I'm using 2023), source: https://taso.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023-NCAA-Football-Rule-Book.pdf
Either way ya slice it the ref made the wrong call.

Because if Williams was covered up and not at the end of his scrimmage line then as @jave36 pointed out you call Ineligible Receiver Downfield as soon as the pass is thrown.

But waiting to see who touches the ball first and then calling illegal touching would imply Williams stepped out and that's why they flagged it, but again according to DeBoer (which might actually be a lie anyway) he was told it was because Williams was covered up.

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Do y'all remember how chippy the Vanderbilt game was last year? I bet Clark Lea will have his boys fired up and they will try to get personal foul penalties on us. Just something to keep in mind.
 
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