Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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jave36 said:
Just wait till year 3 and 4. You're in the honeymoon phase where they make everyone feel good and care about growing. Their goal is to unload it at a profit by year 5. The industry term "PE year 4" exists for a reason.

Youre right there are good ones out there, but it's far from 1:1 good to bad.
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They want to make a profit? The nerve of those capitalist pig dogs!
 
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csprig9 said:
I thought the star position was coached by CWM
I’m frustrated with both then
What’s the point of recruiting talented freshman and not playing them while the older guys continually get beat or make sure tackles 15 yards downfield
You could just portal guys each year at that rate
I know CWM is tied to CJH and I respect that but I also haven’t liked CWM ever
I think there are better CB coaches out there and banks is a pretty good DC but his position coaching is not great imo either
Overall the secondary has left a lot to be desired

Yes the talent was bad at the start but overall it seems to be lacking in improvement of talent and play overall compared to the other positions

I can’t wait for this season but if our dbs keep getting burned in the passing game again it’s gonna be frustrating to watch AGAIN…….

Also I assume you live on Marco island
My parents live in fort myers
I really like that area …fort myers/naples
They have grown up significantly in the last 30 years
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I thought Matthews played great coverage on Brazell in that highlight TD play going around where Brazell made an amazing play but had to OPI to get Matthews out of the way. Ball was played perfectly in that situation because there's not enough time to turn your head on a route that short into the endzone. In a real game there would have also probably been more traffic and safeties and/or LBs watching the QB's eyes.

If Gibson and McCoy are the 1's with Matthews as the #3 CB with multiple options at Star then I feel great about our DB's as long as we get solid, smart Safety play. There's very few teams we play that can beat us over the top other than Bama.
 
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It's been a rough year on this farm, we've welcomed new additions, took in a couple of sick animals we really couldn't afford to..... But as always we make it work. Lost a couple of our goats, one a surprise, the other was a long term cancer case nobody wanted a few years ago.

When we were still able to rescue we always made a promise to our animals. That we would offer them the best life we possibly could and relieve their pain when they told us it was time.

Tonight the longest tenured animal on our farm told us it was time. She's been here since the beginning, the prior owners of this place took her in when her previous owner realized she couldn't be ridden....tossed away like so many are.

The distinguished lady on the left pictured above is Charlotte from a few years ago. She was already an old girl in that photo, around 30 years. It's how I like to remember her, before going nightblind and then completely blind a year later. She had been stalled the last year because she couldn't adjust to the paddock no matter how hard we tried. With the help of our vet she went peacefully this evening after going down.

Our old farmhouse in the distance with the sunrise seems fitting, Chase that sunrise and keep the darkness behind you old girl......Rest Easy!

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Glitch said:
secks.
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Me and my wife's best friend BJ and his stories is the ultimate sleep aid......I just lay back and relax while listening to great stories that have minimal talking that seems muffled because I'mso relaxed. Funny, the missus seems to really get into those stories and has plenty of energy while I can't even move during or after they're over.
 
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cncchris33 said:
No, no worries, I didn't view it as a knock on Jabari Small, and I'm certainly not making an attempt to defend his honor, necessarily. I'm simply trying to determine how your opinion was formed based on a lack of evidence on Bishop's behalf. It sounds based more in hope and projection based on high school production mixed in with a little bit of unqualified camp reports.

You're right that Small wasn't a major recruiting win, though his offer list was vastly more impressive than Bishop's if we are being honest. Tennessee, Texas A&M, Michigan, Auburn, UNC, Kentucky, Ole Miss, etc. Bishop's best offers were Tennessee, Michigan St, Miss St, VA Tech, and Purdue. Most thought he was headed to Coastal Carolina before opting for Tennessee following a late push.

Small also played against much stiffer HS competition playing for Briarcrest Christian in Memphis. Karns isn't playing a "who's who" kind of schedule against East TN competition. So, while I'm well aware of Bishop's record-setting exploits in high school, it's also fair to wonder what Jabari Small could have done playing for Karns carrying the ball 40+ times per game against the likes of Halls (my alma mater), William Blount, and Campbell County, as well.

It's fine to feel like Bishop could be that kind of player. I guess I just disagree with the automatic assumption that he's destined to be an upgrade. Small wasn't dynamic or supremely talented, but the tangible evidence to support the idea that Bishop is a better version of him isn't there, IMO. We can agree to disagree on that, though. I hope you're right, because that would certainly be a welcomed surprise.
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Halls kid here (Adrian Burnett Elementary) and so is my wife but middle and high only for her. Class of 2000 for me but I transferred to Powell. Wife is class of 2002. Anywhere near that? I'm pretty sure from reading the B-Ball forum that you are close but a little older.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Absolutely! I'm more than willing to join the club that hopes the floor of our RB room is Jabari Small. Small was never the outright RB...he split carries all 4 years, which is seemingly Heupel's MO with RBs, which helps explain why he never cleared 800 yds. My disagreement was with you calling Bishop an upgrade on him before he's taken a snap. Just seemed like pie in the sky, though it may prove out over time. As I said, I hope you're right. We all want to see more talent in the building. I don't have a preference where that comes from. If it's Bishop, then I'm all for it.
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If Small and Bishop end up comparable as the floor of our RB room then I will be thrilled. I think our offense makes average RBs look very good and productive. Just like QB, I don't ever expect to have a bad running game unless our OL is garbage but I don't see that happening with our scheme, rotation of fresh legs with minimal wear and how we are recruiting and developing OL. At the very least, we should be a very attractive spot for portal OL.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
If Small and Bishop end up comparable as the floor of our RB room then I will be thrilled. I think our offense makes average RBs look very good and productive. Just like QB, I don't ever expect to have a bad running game unless our OL is garbage but I don't see that happening with our scheme, rotation of fresh legs with minimal wear and how we are recruiting and developing OL. At the very least, we should be a very attractive spot for portal OL.
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As long as we have a strong center...
 
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25vol said:
If you don’t know why PE is a bad thing, just say that. It is well known that PE firms are scum who only value short-term gain over all else. They will lay off, sell, or outsource all that they can to realize that gain, no matter the long-term effects and consequences. They are vultures who come in with smiles while they prepare to carve you up like a turkey. They’re not to be trusted under any circumstances, and any AD in this country would be wise to avoid them at all costs.

If a PE group like Redbird LLC decides that UNC is not making enough money within their typically extremely aggressive timelines, they’re going to start selling stuff the university owns to make up the difference—and ANYTHING is on the table at that point. That’s a fact.

We should consider ourselves lucky that UT makes enough money that this isn’t even remotely necessary. These smaller schools that are being forced into this by ADs and presidents with no financial knowledge are going to learn some very hard lessons.
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So what's the solution to PE's downside, a new round of anti-trust legislation?
 
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Glitch said:
I am not saying that all PE is good or bad. I am saying nothing should be painted with a broad brush. We should take each thing as it is and evaluate people and things on their own merit. Not lump them together with other similar things and assume they are all the same. It is dangerous.
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We tried that by letting you start a game thread. It is dangerous! 😁
 
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