Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Plove23]

Where is he going? I hate the saved pretext.

Not sure yet, he haven't made up his mind yet

 

[tyonthefly93]

Also, the Waffle House we tried to go to after the game in Columbus did not have dine in option. You could order at a window and take it to go. Columbus is garbage.

 

[Rishvol]

Also, the Waffle House we tried to go to after the game in Columbus did not have dine in option. You could order at a window and take it to go. Columbus is garbage.

That's unAmerican especially since you definitely needed to fight someone

 

[Jackcrevol]

....at this moment, nah

Good luck, Cam.

 

[TrippieRedd]

 

[dmwvol12]

That 1st quarter is gonna give me nightmares, . 21-17 after that. I don't think we had the talent to win, regardless, but it should've been a much closer game.

It seems like there is a feeling of urgency missing that the program had in '21 & '22. They were going balls to the wall to win games. We need that urgency back. I don't care so much if we lose games like this as long as we're fighting and throwing haymakers. We threw 1 deep 50/50 ball last night, late in the game.

Bring back the urgency and the killer mentality.

I just don’t think we have the dude’s on the perimeter to make those explosive plays. Hyatt and Tillman could run. Bru was a good possession type but couldn’t stretch the field. Seems like we may have missed on some WR evaluations because some of those guys were highly rated. Nico also missed some chunk plays but I just don’t see the dude’s. Ohio State had more than their fair share. I’m not sure if it’s coaching or talent but Heupel mentioned it last night for a reason. I trust Heupel to figure it out as he’s ultra competitive and smart.

 

[headhunter15]

In the last few years, UT has made money hand over fist from this fan base. That money is going to have to start being used for paying players, high character guys and not so high character guys.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

Just curious because hearing a lot of this but no examples. What were they doing?

Walking back we had several yell obscenities towards us and a few made dumb remarks like “go back to Knoxville you f***ots!” Or one guy threatened to beat up a female TN fan but her bf stepped in. It was just ridiculous.

 

[volamite86]

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Good riddance

 

[SGMVols]

In the last few years, UT has made money hand over fist from this fan base. That money is going to have to start being used for paying players, high character guys and not so high character guys.

That’s the entire point of the talent fee but y’all keep dumping on it

 

[Batman1948]

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Still a great season. Still glad I came up here for the game.

The whole time I kept thinking about what Tony V said at the national title celebration: “Make a choice. You’re either a Vol or you’re not. Through thick and thin.”

It was thin tonight. But I still love em and that will never change.

I wish I could give this a 1000 likes

 

[mr.checkerboards]

That’s the entire point of the talent fee but y’all keep dumping on it

Because so far we use that fee to pay bad players

 

[TrippieRedd]

Because so far we use that fee to pay bad players

We have a winner

 

[MarcoVol]

Because so far we use that fee to pay bad players

So far that fee hasn’t kicked in. Starts for 2025

 

[MarcoVol]

Do we have to retire the white helmets now and wear orange helmets all of next year?

Is that how it works around here?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So far that fee hasn’t kicked in. Starts for 2025

Our NIL in general tho

 

[dmwvol12]

Yup.i think our approach has been more of a 'total value package' vs just the nil $. And it's worked in a lot of cases. But for others, it doesn't... I've lauded our unwillingness to not do the bidding war thing, for a lot of the reasons you mention.

But this thing is different now and college football is professional. So it does take some recalibration of the mindset.

I truly think we are probably top ten but not at the level of schools like OSU, Texas, Oregon, Georgia and maybe a few others. We got a head start but some of those massive universities passed us up as they have dramatically more alumni and $$$. We do have a rabid fan base but the NIL money can’t come from the school as of now. Looks like revenue sharing is coming but not yet. OSU reportedly spent in excess of 20 million for this year’s team. It’s not a coincidence that’s where the talent is going. Recruiting is just not what it used to be. You need great coaching and talent evaluation as it’s unlikely we will ever have one of the top 5-10 budgets to buy talent. I just feel like Heupel has exceeded his roster talent and would hope we learned our lesson about constantly firing coaches. Literally only one team can win a National Championship per year. We qualified for the freaking playoffs and were the laughingstock of college football 4 years ago. I’m glad most of these toxic people don’t work for themselves because they would all be fired by themselves. Heupel is a great person and ambassador for our university and I like the way he conducts himself. I’d rather have a Mark Richt type decent human than a POS human like Urban Meyer and win a national championship. Maybe it’s my age but how about we show a little grace and be thankful for all the good that this coaching staff has accomplished. I know it’s a lot happier way to live.
I didn’t mean to high jack your post Jake I liked what you said and just started being an old man and rambling.

 

[knoxvol52]

Do we have to retire the white helmets now and wear orange helmets all of next year?

Is that how it works around here?

Storm Troopers uniforms R.I.P...

 

[dmwvol12]

Here’s another thing I’m mulling: is college football really that interesting of a sport?

Lots of blowouts. Vast talent disparity still exists, favoring a small handful of programs. Clunky playoff that is killing the significance of rivalry games and has produced only a handful of memorable games. Most programs are doomed to unending irrelevance as the rich get richer. Meanwhile, programs like Tennessee can get close to the top, but may have a glass ceiling without the resources of Texas or the recurring footprint of Georgia.

Still love the Vols and I will still watch. But I have asked myself that a lot in recent years.

I think you’re on to something and I’m afraid it’s going to get worse. I think there’s a good chance it goes the way of MLB. Big market large universities with the most money buys the best team.

 

[knoxvol52]

Not sure yet, he haven't made up his mind yet

Did Tony Elliott Head Coach of Virginia come a calling for Cam to attend UVA?

 

[dmwvol12]

Welp...the VN blame gaming and hating on everyone associated with our program is back. I will check back in a few months.

Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Blessings on each of you and your families. Embrace them and cherish your time with them.

Please don’t go Glitch. We need more reasonable people on the board. I get not wanting to clutter your life with all the negativity. I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas.

 

[VolNash17]

There is one great thing that came out of the trip yesterday. Many of you must be feeling the same way. Regardless of the outcome, at least we don’t live in Ohio.

It’s so bad. Like Alabama just with Columbus lol

 

[dmwvol12]

Here’s a thought: maybe we don’t need to blow everything up trying to win yesterday’s game.

What are the odds we face that scenario ever again?

Elimination game on the road against a top 3 program who was coming off a bad loss, playing a home game with the world against them, two weeks to prepare, in 15 degree weather. Honestly I have a hard time imagining very many of the elite teams from recent years winning that game. Maybe 2019 LSU? But even then I’m not sure.

Way too reasonable and mature. You have to fire someone because we lost a football game on the road to the most talented team in the NCAA. Winning a national championship is easy, what’s wrong with you?

 

[JacketVol]

And for THE THIRD...STRAIGHT....YEAR...it will once again be said...

Hey we allowed fewer points than last year (again)

And people once again want to let him go

Boy they'll be real happy when we grab up a new DC and go back to allowing 30/game.

We LITERALLY made the playoffs this year because of our defense. We don't beat UF, Bama, OU?, etc without them.

I get and agree with what your saying. My issue is in the tougher games, he is VERY slow to change and adjust to what is not working. We waited till right before the half was over to adjust and play tighter. We got a few stops doing it. I do not think he is great at in game adjustments. BUT, we get better speed at LB and safety and we can do better. We need some top safeties.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Walking back we had several yell obscenities towards us and a few made dumb remarks like “go back to Knoxville you f***ots!” Or one guy threatened to beat up a female TN fan but her bf stepped in. It was just ridiculous.

Most of OSU fans were pretty cool before the game. My sons and I rode up with my good friend and his kids that are OSU fans. Tailgated with one of my main beer distributors that’s an OSU fan, they were all fine pregame.
Walking out, different tune! Completely! Heard more “enjoy the drive home you effing redneck hillbillies…” etc then I’ve ever witnessed. Saw several damn near fights with Vol fans squaring up and OSU fans mouthing and retreating. We live 80 miles from cbus and their fans are insufferable for the most part!