Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Enki_Amenra]

They’re showing Tejas v Arid State. Did that game really turn on a late targeting no-call? Was is targeting? I didn’t see the game, but I saw the clip and it looked like head to head on a player in a defenseless position. But I’m not anywhere to look up the rules and definitions. Help a bro out here. I know we had a lot on eyes here on it.

I think it was, by definition. It was a huge call that would directly impact the outcome whichever way they called it.

 

[GVol1966]

May need to do a DC hot board.

Gruden

 

[tnvols72]

 

[Brillovol]

I donut understand you

It was a flaky joke that rose to the occasion.

 

[butchna]

Yes. When smaller schools call to discuss his team’s offense, he does conference calls with them. He also teaches the offense to new coaches.

HC will ask him in game to suggest plays as his HC is OC and play caller also. In game, he has freedom to suggest plays based on what he is seeing.
Primary scheme is off season work, but he works with OL coach and RB coach on run game for each individual game in season. Then after meeting with offensive staff for total game plan, he meets one on one with head coach for final game plan and analytics.

And this is a P4 school?

 

[vol94]

That would have been a flag if not late in game, imo. Horrible NO call! It was targeting! The explanation of no targeting is laughable.

 

[UTProf]

Sugar Bowl resale values have plummeted. I saw tickets under $20 on StubHub to get into the game.

Tons of Georgia and Notre Dame fans have already left New Orleans.

not surprising. Even without an attack the postponement is going to screw up a lot of fans but you add extra inconvenience and some fear and it’s a lot to ask for a middle round game.

 

[jave36]

Fighting Irish pull the upset today, don't care what the spread is this is a damn home game for Georgia...

Hope so. I don't know how to pick this game but I just can't imagine a backup qb beating a top team.

 

[knoxvol52]

May need to do a DC hot board.

Who's the plane for?

 

[jave36]

not surprising. Even without an attack the postponement is going to screw up a lot of fans but you add extra inconvenience and some fear and it’s a lot to ask for a middle round game.

Ya, the airlines won't reschedule you for free haha

 

[ionaVOL]

Anyone have a 3 or 4 leg anytime TD parlay for me from the Georgia and Ole Miss games today? I need a slump breaker lol

 

[triadvolfan]

According to bullet note #3 every offensive player handling the ball is guilty many times during a season.

And this is another example of legit criticism of this rule I feel. If it's dangerous and you want to take it out of the game why only penalize the defensive players and allow the offense to repeatedly violate bullet point number 3?

By the way that rant is not directed at you........I just hate the rule because of the ambiguity and inconsistent enforcement.

Understood. I'm not saying I like the rule, just that as the rule is written the play should have been a penalty.

 

[KB5252]

I donut understand you

Hard for me to glaze over the fact that statement is full of holes!

 

[jave36]

According to bullet note #3 every offensive player handling the ball is guilty many times during a season.

And this is another example of legit criticism of this rule I feel. If it's dangerous and you want to take it out of the game why only penalize the defensive players and allow the offense to repeatedly violate bullet point number 3?

By the way that rant is not directed at you........I just hate the rule because of the ambiguity and inconsistent enforcement.

How often is an offensive player hitting a defenseless player? You can put a shoulder into a helmet all day if the recipient isn't defenseless.

 

[franklinpence]

Sally is progressing.

A tech called "Shot Spotter" listens to sounds in an area, like a city, and identifies gunshots and their precise location. . . even the type (caliber) of gun probably used. It alerts the PD immediately. Sometimes cops get to the scene before 911 calls are even made.

Pretty soon Sally will be predicting future crimes. I may be in the minority thinking this, but it's a good report.

Shot spotter has been around for years. It is an impressive program.

 

[KB5252]

How often is an offensive player hitting a defenseless player? You can put a shoulder into a helmet all day if the recipient isn't defenseless.

Not according to that rule you cannot. Forceable contact to the head neck area with a shoulder, helmet, arm or fist..... Doesn't even have to be defenseless......... For the defense anyway.......

 

[TheRain]

 

[Mr305Vol]

They’re showing Tejas v Arid State. Did that game really turn on a late targeting no-call? Was is targeting? I didn’t see the game, but I saw the clip and it looked like head to head on a player in a defenseless position. But I’m not anywhere to look up the rules and definitions. Help a bro out here. I know we had a lot on eyes here on it.

It was definitely head to head contact.
Also, the blocked ASU field goal bounced through the uprights without the kicking team touching it and should have counted as a made field goal, per NCAA rules.

 

[Mr305Vol]

Gruden

Fire up the Grumors Part IV thread!

We are getting the band back together! Where are the golf-playing, jet-flying, liquor-spilling insiders??

 

[hjeagle1vol]

45.5

Not it but UGA is totally unknown.

 

[VolGee4]

Not according to that rule you cannot. Forceable contact to the head neck area with a shoulder, helmet, arm or fist..... Doesn't even have to be defenseless......... For the defense anyway.......

Read the rule again. Before you get to the 4 bullet points for targeting, it stipulates that it qualifies on a "Defenseless player." Then, any one of the 4 examples applies as targeting.

Edit: Going back to yesterday, I presume they didn't think the contact was forcible.

 

[tnvols72]

 

[hjeagle1vol]

Hope so. I don't know how to pick this game but I just can't imagine a backup qb beating a top team.

My cash out twitch right now

 

[Visidog]

It was definitely head to head contact.
Also, the blocked ASU field goal bounced through the uprights without the kicking team touching it and should have counted as a made field goal, per NCAA rules.

I don’t think a FG can bounce through under NCAA rules. AI thinks it can (and I’m just a guy), but the rule says the kick is no good when it touches the ground. If blocked, it comes a scrimmage kick—basically a punt. The NFL might allow a bouncer to count, but not the NCAA.

 

[KB5252]

Read the rule again. Before you get to the 4 bullet points for targeting, it stipulates that it qualifies on a "Defenseless player." Then, any one of the 4 examples applies as targeting.

Edit: Going back to yesterday, I presume they didn't think the contact was forceable.

That's pretty wild then..... Because I've seen targeting called on a running back getting hit while attempting to deliver a blow...... Certainly not defenseless..........

Which further illustrates my dislike of this rule.

Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding.