Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#117,403
butchna said:
As with DeerPark, LWS and other legit insiders, there’s having sources and then there’s overshooting your coverage and superimposing a personal OPINION as INFORMATION.
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Well you are the dumbass that wouldn't shut up about Joe Osovet being an offensive savant and future OC and HC here..
 
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#117,404
VolGee4 said:
Let’s clarify the attorney part of your post. Attorneys get a 4 year degree before going to law school for at least 3 years. Then, they have to pass the bar exam in order to practice.

The contingent fee (i.e. 30%) is just that- a contingency. If the attorney works the case, and the case is a loser, then the attorney gets nothing. The client never pays out of pocket until there is an actual settlement or judgment.
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Hourly?
 
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#117,405
marcusluvsvols said:
Yeah, i think anything north of 10% is robbery IMO...but that's how I feel about lawyers too. They take 30-40% of the settlements people get who have actually been hurt, killed, or wronged in some way. I find that ridiculous on it's face. These "agents" for college players, and pros, didnt even have to go to school for 4 years and pass the Bar exam. Where exactly is Agent School? There isn't one. There isn't a program for that at University either. In most cases in college, the "agent" is just someone close to them who they trust. Family or even a coach. You or I can pay a lawyer a nominal fee to look over contract language and make sure it isn't gonna exploit the athlete...if that's even necessary. I bet once we get a salary cap for players, the rate for college "agents" will come down as well. Them making 5x or 6x what NFL agents make seems crazy to me.
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Its all about a case by case basis. Money is different to everyone.. There are some strictly NIL agents and then there are reps for guys who are likely friends/family..... Everyone has different circumstances.
 
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#117,414
KingVFL said:
I appreciate the narrative that I know these things but just randomly have a non-objective ax to grind about our OL coach’s recruiting.
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Is that what I inferred? My bad. Was angling for a “narrative” that some things you spackle out on here aren’t canon…but your own take.
 
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Was looking at our 2026 class, which is off to a great start as yall know. I didnt realize that we had 8 commits already. So about 1/3 of the class. That happened fast. Cant wait to see who else jumps in the boat. Pretty sure we have a couple more guys we are in a good spot with set to announce late Jan/Feb. I appreciate all the effort by those who track all this stuff and make the threads etc. Thanks for the effort guys.
 
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#117,421
butchna said:
It’s every instance. 😴
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In general, Glen does the absolute bare minimum in recruiting. If we land someone, it’s generally because of some other reason. If we don’t land someone, people like to point to the OL coach not building relationships because that’s a reasonable thing to do.

The unfortunate reality is there isn’t a single person around the program that gives him a passing grade on recruiting, which is why all “insiders” say the same thing.
 
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KingVFL said:
In general, Glen does the absolute bare minimum in recruiting. If we land someone, it’s generally because of some other reason. If we don’t land someone, people like to point to the OL coach not building relationships because that’s a reasonable thing to do.
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@KingVFL , if this is indeed reality ( and Im not sayingit isn't, mind you), it would only be able to be categorized as a giant failure on the HC to allow this to continue would it not?

How do you work around this particular weak link without making a change? Is Hype seriously unable/unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to his coaching staff to make the program better? I'm not sure how you band aid a situation where a position coach isn't good at either development or recruiting?

Any additional insight you can offer?
 
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#117,424
volsfan_17 said:
@KingVFL , if this is indeed reality ( and Im not sayingit isn't, mind you), it would only be able to be categorized as a giant failure on the HC to allow this to continue would it not?

How do you work around this particular weak link without making a change? Is Hype seriously unable/unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to his coaching staff to make the program better? I'm not sure how you band aid a situation where a position coach isn't good at either development or recruiting?

Any additional insight you can offer?
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I mean if you can’t tell it’s one of my biggest frustrations. A lot has been done to augment Elarbee and surround him with people that can be better at this but I obviously find it inexplicable.

I think the simple answer is there’s a belief the coaching more than makes up for it. That’s not my view but that would seem logical.
 
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