Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[butchna]

I appreciate the narrative that I know these things but just randomly have a non-objective ax to grind about our OL coach’s recruiting.

Is that what I inferred? My bad. Was angling for a “narrative” that some things you spackle out on here aren’t canon…but your own take.

 

[butchna]

We dont land an OL: “It’s because of Ellarbee!”

We land an OL: “It’s NOT because of Ellarbee.”

- Insider science prolly

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Was looking at our 2026 class, which is off to a great start as yall know. I didnt realize that we had 8 commits already. So about 1/3 of the class. That happened fast. Cant wait to see who else jumps in the boat. Pretty sure we have a couple more guys we are in a good spot with set to announce late Jan/Feb. I appreciate all the effort by those who track all this stuff and make the threads etc. Thanks for the effort guys.

 

[Ten_Titans]

We dont land an OL: “It’s because of Ellarbee!”

We land an OL: “It’s NOT because of Ellarbee.”

- Insider science prolly

It's almost like both of those things can be true but you would have to know the details of individual recruitments

 

[butchna]

It's almost like both of those things can be true but you would have to know the details of individual recruitments

It’s every instance.

 

[tnhunter 10]

 

[Christian Lowe]

Trevor Bauer and Christian Moore for anyone interested

 

[KingVFL]

It’s every instance.

In general, Glen does the absolute bare minimum in recruiting. If we land someone, it’s generally because of some other reason. If we don’t land someone, people like to point to the OL coach not building relationships because that’s a reasonable thing to do.

The unfortunate reality is there isn’t a single person around the program that gives him a passing grade on recruiting, which is why all “insiders” say the same thing.

 

[SagginVawls]

Well this thread has been entertaining to read today.

 

[volsfan_17]

In general, Glen does the absolute bare minimum in recruiting. If we land someone, it’s generally because of some other reason. If we don’t land someone, people like to point to the OL coach not building relationships because that’s a reasonable thing to do.

@KingVFL , if this is indeed reality ( and Im not sayingit isn't, mind you), it would only be able to be categorized as a giant failure on the HC to allow this to continue would it not?

How do you work around this particular weak link without making a change? Is Hype seriously unable/unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to his coaching staff to make the program better? I'm not sure how you band aid a situation where a position coach isn't good at either development or recruiting?

Any additional insight you can offer?

 

[KingVFL]

@KingVFL , if this is indeed reality ( and Im not sayingit isn't, mind you), it would only be able to be categorized as a giant failure on the HC to allow this to continue would it not?

How do you work around this particular weak link without making a change? Is Hype seriously unable/unwilling to make the necessary adjustments to his coaching staff to make the program better? I'm not sure how you band aid a situation where a position coach isn't good at either development or recruiting?

Any additional insight you can offer?

I mean if you can’t tell it’s one of my biggest frustrations. A lot has been done to augment Elarbee and surround him with people that can be better at this but I obviously find it inexplicable.

I think the simple answer is there’s a belief the coaching more than makes up for it. That’s not my view but that would seem logical.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Some on here think they should be hired on staff because they play Madden.

Fyp

 

[csprig9]

I mean if you can’t tell it’s one of my biggest frustrations. A lot has been done to augment Elarbee and surround him with people that can be better at this but I obviously find it inexplicable.

I think the simple answer is there’s a belief the coaching more than makes up for it. That’s not my view but that would seem logical.

I don’t know what to think anymore

Hasn’t our oline been named Joe Moore finalists the last three straight years

What do you do

 

[peaygolf]

Just curious...........

Anyone remember what happened 15 years ago today?

 

[Volbucky]

Explain it to me like I’m not a fellow professor.

Is that a prerequisite for posting on here?

Don’t get emotional

 

[Vol423]

Arkansas really packs in the fans for their women’s basketball games.

 

[KingVFL]

I don’t know what to think anymore

Hasn’t our oline been named Joe Moore finalists the last three straight years

What do you do

I think what we’re doing might be the right answer. I don’t know that it’s not.. but I do know that people don’t know what they are talking about if they give him credit for relationships with these recruits.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

Touchdown

 

[Volbucky]

I think what we’re doing might be the right answer. I don’t know that it’s not.. but I do know that people don’t know what they are talking about if they give him credit for relationships with these recruits.

Some on here can’t comprehend anything other than a yes or no answer.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Helluva td catch in the buffalo game. Pinning the ball between his arm and chest. If it wiggles at all it incomplete but it doesn’t seem to move at all. Great catch!

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Just curious...........

Anyone remember what happened 15 years ago today?

LK gone

 

[jave36]

I don’t know what to think anymore

Hasn’t our oline been named Joe Moore finalists the last three straight years

What do you do

If those awards are your measuring stick....

 

[UTvol1fn]

In general, Glen does the absolute bare minimum in recruiting. If we land someone, it’s generally because of some other reason. If we don’t land someone, people like to point to the OL coach not building relationships because that’s a reasonable thing to do.

The unfortunate reality is there isn’t a single person around the program that gives him a passing grade on recruiting, which is why all “insiders” say the same thing.

Well that's on Heupel. He needs to fire his ass if he doesn't do his job.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I mean if you can’t tell it’s one of my biggest frustrations. A lot has been done to augment Elarbee and surround him with people that can be better at this but I obviously find it inexplicable.

I think the simple answer is there’s a belief the coaching more than makes up for it. That’s not my view but that would seem logical.

I think the people who can survive in the sec on coaching alone is veryyy few and far between. On our staff, CRG (with his thirty year history of putting players in the league) is the only one who can claim that.

The thought that your coaching is just that much better than everyone else in a league that is the highest level of competition in ncaa football, and that people (emotional creatures) will be able to put aside their feelings and go with your school solely on a coaches developmental reputation is unrealistic at best, and arrogantly foolish at worst, in my opinion.

 

[csprig9]

If those awards are your measuring stick....

Well
We went 10-2 with lesser talent this year
What the hell is the problem
Talent and coaching?
But then you see finalists for that award and not many can say that for three straight years

If you fire him who do you realistically get?

Will coaches knock down your door to come to a place to coach that fired the previous coach who was a consistent awards finalist recognizing good performance

What do you do, and what’s your realistic plans if you do fire him