Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[MoCo_Vol]

Hey I like you as a poster so please dont take personally what I’m about to say.

That’s some commie bs. Nobody can tell me how I SHOULD donate my money and expect me to agree with it unless I hold the exact same values as them, just like nobody can tell me what my values should be and expect me to agree with them. If I want to donate to football NIL directly, I would like to have that option. I would likely donate more than I do currently. It’s a gamble at best for them not to provide the option, and a direct fundraising failure at worst. Because someone who doesn’t care about anything but the Lady Vols for example, may very well opt not to contribute at all if they know it’s being spread widely across sports they don’t care about, as then the impact they are making is not in line with the reason they do it and not worth parting with the money as opposed to just going to more lady Vols basketball games and buying more lady Vols shirts, even if that practice doesn’t benefit the players as much as direct NIL support.

Donating money is allowed to be selfish, and makes even more sense when it’s not for a humanitarian cause, which of course sports is not. It’s entertainment.

At the end of the day the end of the product line lies with the consumer and is what makes the venture profitable to the extent it should be. So why not just let them contribute to what they want to?

Those who value equal opportunity and incentivizing the commitment of college athletes broadly will still contribute to the overall fund. I don’t doubt money is being left on the table though. If we have 5000 vol club donors and could get an extra $5 monthly from them specifically for football, that’s $300k which just bought you a quality defender or rotational offensive player annually.

And for those who have said the marginal impact of the volclub via common folk donations doesn’t make that big a difference, then who cares if they put it all towards football. I disagree about it being marginal though, to the extent you can effectively raise the funds.

Lol no worries, I get it.

Thing is if you break up the NIL collective to separate by sport and by gender it creates more workload on said collective, which will then require more administrative support...so if fans are already concerned over 10% or whatever the number is that's not going directly to the athletes that's the reason I say collectives should just focus on taking in donations to a central bucket if ya will. The university/coaches then would be able to help guide resources to sports/players as needed.

You should donate your money however you want I agree.

Mostly I just think adding more workload to the Volclub to essentially keep up with separating donations will only cause problems. The Lady Vols already have a separated NIL deal going with it's own shop location as well.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

So the deadline to declare for the NFL draft is midnight tomorrow night, and we have still not gotten an official announcement from Pearce?

 

[Devo182]

0-3 against Quad 1 though

We’re 4-1, and we’re 1-0 against Quad 2

So a 3 loss team that’s 5-3 against Quad 1 & 2 should be above a 1 loss team that is 5-1 against Quad 1& 2?

NET and KenPom say yes and clearly a lot more goes into it than just straight W-L by quadrants. I'm guessing margins. I think we'd be #2 or 3 if we had only lost by a handful and not been completely wrecked.

I don't make the metrics, just trying to make sense of the output.

 

[csprig9]

So the deadline to declare for the NFL draft is midnight tomorrow night, and we have still not gotten an official announcement from Pearce?

Fingers crossed but expect him to go

 

[Devo182]

It's just optics. You have a historically bad loss, you're going to drop more than you probably deserve. Not saying I agree, but that's always how it's going to work.

If Duke loses by 30 to someone, they're going to drop a lot too.

Yay and nay. Models don't care about optics, but they do agree that margins have predictive value, which is well known through historical data in (at least) football and basketball.

 

[Devo182]

That’s QUICK though. Anyone who has never been in a 9 second or faster ride doesn’t realize.

Uhh yeah it's insane. And we're talking low 9s, some have reported 8.9 1/4 mile.

STOCK.

Only the Lucid Sapphire may be faster and it comes with over 1,200 HP and 1,400 lb-ft torque, right off the assembly line.

 

[Adam Sandler]

You people sure do talk a lot about 'hookers'

What do you mean you people?

 

[Adam Sandler]

The Osenda thread has went to hell in a handbasket. Good grief..

I’m afraid to look. How does good news like that turn sour?

 

[Adam Sandler]

Our devotional was about being proactive. Good reminder

Kid is resilient. That would ruin the day for most.

 

[Adam Sandler]

What a douche.

My favorite part was where he called them a good football team.

Close second is that he addresses Sunbelt Billy directly as if he’s ever going to see this video lol

 

[Devo182]

I thought Tesla’s were crazy until I stepped foot into a Calvo Viper.

Definitely crazy, but not a production build either. At that point we're just talking all custom cars. Anything 2,500+ hp is just wild to me though. Must have been a cool experience. Vipers are also damn weird cars just to begin with, so minimalistic.

The guy that (afaik) still holds the 1/4 mile record from many years ago was pushing something like 28,000 hp. Believe it was rocket powered lol

 

[Adam Sandler]

What? Has a qb ever faked an injury? It’s a defensive tactic, not offensive.

And to think these people get paid to make decisions for a whole industry.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[DD4ME]

 

[DD4ME]

 

[Adam Sandler]

Lol no worries, I get it.

Thing is if you break up the NIL collective to separate by sport and by gender it creates more workload on said collective, which will then require more administrative support...so if fans are already concerned over 10% or whatever the number is that's not going directly to the athletes that's the reason I say collectives should just focus on taking in donations to a central bucket if ya will. The university/coaches then would be able to help guide resources to sports/players as needed.

You should donate your money however you want I agree.

Mostly I just think adding more workload to the Volclub to essentially keep up with separating donations will only cause problems. The Lady Vols already have a separated NIL deal going with it's own shop location as well.

That’s a fair thought. I also would say though I don’t think it would require as much administration as you think. It could probably easily be exported to an excel spreadsheet, as could the donor data necessary to make projections about how long they could rely on the recurring donations.

 

[DD4ME]

final 4.0?

 

[Adam Sandler]

Interestingly, Hooker was discussing whether there should be open competition for next year's QB job given NICOs struggles.

Open competition is only helpful when there would be competition. Nobody is gonna win the job over Nico. And given that, taking first team reps from him would be counterproductive for our ultimate potential this coming season.

 

[Devo182]

Love the idea of the kids having to pay a buyout if they transfer.

Also think these contracts should be a 2 year minimum with penalties if they try to transfer before the 2 years.

Contracts eliminate the stupid off season negotiations….at least for the first 2 years.

100% agree and have for the last 4+ years, contracts are the only end game here. Every sport on earth already has this figured out.

Everything becomes lobsters.

 

[MarcoVol]

1 out of every 3 cfb coaches moved last offseason.

Perhaps they need rules on changing schools as well.

 

[Devo182]

now that money is officially in play…..the kids have the power in that area.

Anyway…..we ain’t fixin that issue today.

Good for them. They've been screwed for decades.

 

[Devo182]

1 out of every 3 cfb coaches moved last offseason.

Perhaps they need rules on changing schools as well.

And only be compensated in room, board, and education (since most of them are dumbasses to begin with )

 

[Adam Sandler]

 

[TrippieRedd]

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Look at the rest of his season. He’s pretty damn consistent.

0 receptions for -3 yards lol

 

[Devo182]

final 4.0?

B-b-but SAs aren't really students

As student-athletes outpace regular students across the country in GPA and graduation rates, with 2x the workload