Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Orange.]

Question for the group:

I just got a call from a salesman through Wyndham Group. A few years back my father in law had a trip thing he couldn’t take, so we got it and had to sit through one of those time share presentations. We said no, naturally, but apparently it got my name on a list. So now they’re trying to sell me a 5-package deal that includes 3 domestics, an international, and then a cruise. It was $1498 for the whole thing (not a timeshare, I made sure that was clear). After wavering, they brought it down to $798 and added two more trip options for a total of 6-trips.

My question: does anyone have any experiences with something similar? It feels “too good to be true” so my wife and I were/are very skeptical. My google searches keep bringing up timeshares, which is not what this was, so figured I’d ask here.

Maybe call someone at Wyndham corporate.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I just couldn't bring myself to quit my job at the bakery. I was underpaid and the hours were lousy, but...

I kneaded the dough.

 

[utkevdawg1]

We were just looking to get maybe 3. Just for eggs to be honest. I have no idea what breeds to get. I mean we want chickens with good temperaments and good layers. If we only get 3, do we need a rooster as well? A friend of mine said you always have to have a rooster.

You never have to have a rooster. I like Cinnamon queens. Strong layers. Awesome temperaments.

 

[Orange.]

You never have to have a rooster. I like Cinnamon queens. Strong layers. Awesome temperaments.

So that’s what the Neil Young song was about.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Question for the group:

I just got a call from a salesman through Wyndham Group. A few years back my father in law had a trip thing he couldn’t take, so we got it and had to sit through one of those time share presentations. We said no, naturally, but apparently it got my name on a list. So now they’re trying to sell me a 5-package deal that includes 3 domestics, an international, and then a cruise. It was $1498 for the whole thing (not a timeshare, I made sure that was clear). After wavering, they brought it down to $798 and added two more trip options for a total of 6-trips.

My question: does anyone have any experiences with something similar? It feels “too good to be true” so my wife and I were/are very skeptical. My google searches keep bringing up timeshares, which is not what this was, so figured I’d ask here.

you'll just get a sales person if you call. round and around she goes.

ive been in sales for two decades. any company who 'knock that much off' on the drop of a hat, isnt good. Think about this.

If I went to a car dealer, and first time someone farts '50% off!'

What does that do to value of their product?

What does that signal to me as the buyer?

A) they have little confidence in value
B) they are under tremendous pressure to a number, and obviously have little training in negotiation.
C) if they anchored at a higher price, and literally dropped 50% that quickly. How much else are they willing to drop?
D) Desperation, if they're that desperate to make sales, then they're also likely to omit, or not tell the full truth.

If its too good to be true, it is. Walk away.

You also have rights as a consumer. Know these. Federal Do Not Call/email is there for a reason, same for solicitations.

 

[peaygolf]

Question for the group:

I just got a call from a salesman through Wyndham Group. A few years back my father in law had a trip thing he couldn’t take, so we got it and had to sit through one of those time share presentations. We said no, naturally, but apparently it got my name on a list. So now they’re trying to sell me a 5-package deal that includes 3 domestics, an international, and then a cruise. It was $1498 for the whole thing (not a timeshare, I made sure that was clear). After wavering, they brought it down to $798 and added two more trip options for a total of 6-trips.

My question: does anyone have any experiences with something similar? It feels “too good to be true” so my wife and I were/are very skeptical. My google searches keep bringing up timeshares, which is not what this was, so figured I’d ask here.

2 words:

Stay away.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

you'll just get a sales person if you call. round and around she goes.

ive been in sales for two decades. any company who 'knock that much off' on the drop of a hat, isnt good. Think about this.

If I went to a car dealer, and first time someone farts '50% off!'

What does that do to value of their product?

What does that signal to me as the buyer?

A) they have little confidence in value
B) they are under tremendous pressure to a number, and obviously have little training in negotiation.
C) if they anchored at a higher price, and literally dropped 50% that quickly. How much else are they willing to drop?
D) Desperation, if they're that desperate to make sales, then they're also likely to omit, or not tell the full truth.

If its too good to be true, it is. Walk away.

You also have rights as a consumer. Know these. Federal Do Not Call/email is there for a reason, same for solicitations.

The initial price was first red flag, but then the huge drop is what ultimately got us to think this is either a scam or there’s way more to it than just a simple trip.

 

[DD4ME]

Question for the group:

I just got a call from a salesman through Wyndham Group. A few years back my father in law had a trip thing he couldn’t take, so we got it and had to sit through one of those time share presentations. We said no, naturally, but apparently it got my name on a list. So now they’re trying to sell me a 5-package deal that includes 3 domestics, an international, and then a cruise. It was $1498 for the whole thing (not a timeshare, I made sure that was clear). After wavering, they brought it down to $798 and added two more trip options for a total of 6-trips.

My question: does anyone have any experiences with something similar? It feels “too good to be true” so my wife and I were/are very skeptical. My google searches keep bringing up timeshares, which is not what this was, so figured I’d ask here.

Wyndham is always some form of time share or club. Likely each requires a presentation or you owe them. Just ask to see the contract. The value there is always in your willingness to deal with the pressure sales. Some people find it worth the hassle others do not. Whatever you do don't sign up there are horror stories about getting out.

 

[DD4ME]

 

[Jackcrevol]

The initial price was first red flag, but then the huge drop is what ultimately got us to think this is either a scam or there’s way more to it than just a simple trip.

Sales is sales. But, it ceases to be sales when you resort to high pressure tactics out the gate. That's predacious. Think about how many people fall for that.

Now, i'm in sales. We all have that **** or get off the pot promotion.

 

[DD4ME]

This reminds me too of the random family that makes the mud they scuff the balls with. Baseball is a pyramid of monopolies. From balls to bats. Even the cushions on the walls of the stadiums are one company. My sister in law works for them.

 

[drvenner]

Jeez, I'm an ahole

Admitting your have a problem is the first step to recovery.

 

[DD4ME]

This

 

[DD4ME]

@mrMet

 

[DD4ME]

 

[DD4ME]

 

[peaygolf]

Congrats to a true Vol ambassador.

 

[drvenner]

Sam Pendleton

University of Tennessee

Committed​

 

[peaygolf]

Wyndham is always some form of time share or club. Likely each requires a presentation or you owe them. Just ask to see the contract. The value there is always in your willingness to deal with the pressure sales. Some people find it worth the hassle others do not. Whatever you do don't sign up there are horror stories about getting out.

I actually interviewed at Wyndham, and went through the training classes, years ago..........WOW.
Eye-opening when it comes to the tactics used.

 

[jave36]

Hope it goes as well as our Sunseri experiment

 

[dmwvol12]

But again, aren't the numbers usually estimates? "He can make up to 2 million?"

Paying him that much after they just won a title, with plenty of other talent on the roster and incoming freshmen is plain dumb.

I really have no idea. I do know agents and handlers have been known to stretch the truth before. Shocking I know.

 

[drvenner]

@drvenner

I saw it. Don't like him as a person but he's a really good coach.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Question for the group:

I just got a call from a salesman through Wyndham Group. A few years back my father in law had a trip thing he couldn’t take, so we got it and had to sit through one of those time share presentations. We said no, naturally, but apparently it got my name on a list. So now they’re trying to sell me a 5-package deal that includes 3 domestics, an international, and then a cruise. It was $1498 for the whole thing (not a timeshare, I made sure that was clear). After wavering, they brought it down to $798 and added two more trip options for a total of 6-trips.

My question: does anyone have any experiences with something similar? It feels “too good to be true” so my wife and I were/are very skeptical. My google searches keep bringing up timeshares, which is not what this was, so figured I’d ask here.

That's an "exit" program. They try to sell it to people as a way to get your foot in the door. Most of them say you can use the $ you pay for it as a downpayment when it's over.

They're pretty good packages, as long as you don't have to take a tour on every trip.

The best way to stay in a condominium for cheap is RedWeek.com. you just rent a week for cheap from a timeshare owner using that site.

Here's an example of one for rent right now (just type in the city you want to go to and all the rentals pop up):

 

[drvenner]

Have you fired up your keyboard, @InVOLuntary ?

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

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The order should be John, Paul, George, and Ringo. Can’t believe they screwed this up. This ultimately led to their break up