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I just can't get excited about watching 80 games a year. Way too many. Same with baseball, it's just too many.
NBA is all about the playoffs for me. That's when the intensity goes up in every game. I have the NBA League Pas thru YouTube T.V. because I like to watch every Lakers game even before DK was drafted.


As for baseball, I can watch it all day everyday...
 
Why not both?

But in all honesty the way baseball is being run right now with superteams no one has a chance of competing against would it even be successful?

Serious question, I don't know the answer
Ehhh, that's a popular narrative but the last 10 World Series were won by 8 different teams. Its not as simple as buying a championship, as people like to say.
 
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WNBA = looking to grow teams
NBA = state already has a team, just relocating

MLB hasn't added a team in almost 30 years...longer than any other pro league.

NHL = 2024 (Utah Hockey Club)
NBA = 2004 (Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets)
NFL = 2002 (Houston Texans)
MLB = 1998 (Arizona Diamondbacks & Tampa Bay Rays)
 
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I just can't get excited about watching 80 games a year. Way too many. Same with baseball, it's just too many.

Yeah, this is honestly why I follow certain teams more than others. Too many damn games for some pro leagues!

College baseball is about my limit...and I obviously don't get to watch every single game. But I usually catch the weekend series
 
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Ehhh, that's a popular narrative but the last 10 World Series were won by 8 different teams. Its not as simple as buying a championship, as people like to say.
Now you know that Kansas City bought those players in 2015 to win WS same for the Nationals a few years ago..
 
Now you know that Kansas City bought those players in 2015 to win WS same for the Nationals a few years ago..
Yeah, but the Royals lost the World Series with those guys before they won it the next year. 😄

How about the Marlins proving you can do the opposite? After they won the Series in '97, they had a fire sale and got rid of everybody, then finished with the worst record in the league in '98.
 
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How are computers going to call fouls?....how can they make judgement calls?

I'll give you ball spots and what-not...but I don't trust that 💩 anymore than humans.
Machine learning. Human refs would need to teach it what is, say, an acceptable tug vs a hold. Then teach it a million times over until it calls it them far better than any human ever will. Once it's proven, then you release it.

Will take time and may be incremental.
 
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Justin Tucker accused of sexual misconduct by a massage therapist.

Must've been hanging out with DeShaun, no wonder his FG percentage went down ...
 
Machine learning. Human refs would need to teach it what is, say, an acceptable tug vs a hold. Then teach it a million times over until it calls it them far better than any human ever will. Once it's proven, then you release it.

Will take time and may be incremental.
Machine learning is technically structured data and this would be unstructured, and that would require refs to all agree on the difference between a tug and a hold, which they don't; but your point is valid. I think in our lifetime we could see some AI assist that would drastically help though.

Still, I think we're a long, long way away from being able to take into account all the hundreds or maybe thousands of different variables the human brain processes unconsciously, some quant some qual, needed to make judgment calls like that.
 
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Machine learning is technically structured data and this would be unstructured, and that would require refs to all agree on the difference between a tug and a hold, which they don't; but your point is valid. I think in our lifetime we could see some AI assist that would drastically help though.

Still, I think we're a long, long way away from being able to take into account all the hundreds or maybe thousands of different variables the human brain processes unconsciously, some quant some qual, needed to make judgment calls like that.
I've already seen it figure out baseball calls (steal calls from 3rd base coaches, for example) where not every swipe across the chest or hat tug is the same from every person, but it can discern.

I do think it would take a good bit of work to teach it the level of discernment needed, but it's definitely doable in the next 5 years if the leagues are willing to buy in and push the capital into action.
 
I've already seen it figure out baseball calls (steal calls from 3rd base coaches, for example) where not every swipe across the chest or hat tug is the same from every person, but it can decipher.

I do think it would take a good bit of work to teach it the level of discernment, but it's definitely doable in the next 5 years.
That's just pattern recognition, binary true/false, has nothing to do with discernment. It's not really even in the same type of conversation or data interpretation as judgment calls. I'm sure they could roll something out in 5 years, but I don't think anyone would actually think it's better.
 
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That's just pattern recognition, binary true/false, has nothing to do with discernment. It's not really even in the same type of conversation or data interpretation as judgment calls. I'm sure they could roll something out in 5 years, but I don't think anyone would actually think it's better.
I wouldn't say that. It's visually watching a human make movements and discerning their motions, some of them quite small. They have to discern and discriminate the different motions accurately. It's a starting point. I'm sure there's far crazier things not well known to the public or in advance development...r&d.
 
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Justin Tucker accused of sexual misconduct by a massage therapist.

Must've been hanging out with DeShaun, no wonder his FG percentage went down ...
Talked that over with my wife when I got home. She spouted the old reliable “Why would SIX massage therapists lie?” Not a personal fan of him, but the gameplan got set with Watson. You’d lie because money changing hands is a thing!

Thinking the Saints are getting ready to hire Kellen Moore.
 
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