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OGbabyaviVol said:
I don’t gamble any, but Bruin and some of the other knowledgeable gambling posters Have said in the past that the line movement late is usually the professional gamblers placing bets, and gives a good idea of what may happen, because they are right much more than they are wrong.
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Ahh, not worth taking him off ignore haha. So follow the moving lines. Got it thanks man
 
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therickbol said:
As soon as he starts using "fans and media" response in deciding who should play, he should be fired on the spot.
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I’m just saying he’s tone deaf. When everyone is saying the same thing maybe it’s time to consider their point of view.

The venerable Butch Jones, worshipped by many, had Kamara on the bench quite a bit. He was questioned for it and it was certainly warranted.
 
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Jack Burton said:
I’m just saying he’s tone deaf. When everyone is saying the same thing maybe it’s time to consider their point of view.

The venerable Butch Jones, worshipped by many, had Kamara on the bench quite a bit. He was questioned for it and it was certainly warranted.
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I believe the Kamara thing is a bit overblown. Sure, he could have been used a little more in spots. But, Kamara was only at UT for 2 years. Hurd ran for almost 1300 yards in 2015 at 4.7 yards per carry. Dobbs also had 671 rushing yards, so that's nearly 2,000 between 2 other players. I also recall people upset against OU when they ran Kamara at the goal line instead of Hurd.

Kamara got the ball more in 2016 when Hurd got hurt and eventually quit. But, John Kelly was running through defenses as well.

If our QB hadn't been a runner like Dobbs, then Kamara would have gotten it more. Just only one football.
 
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Jack Burton said:
I’m just saying he’s tone deaf. When everyone is saying the same thing maybe it’s time to consider their point of view.

The venerable Butch Jones, worshipped by many, had Kamara on the bench quite a bit. He was questioned for it and it was certainly warranted.
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well, we've not seen anything, production wise, from anyone behind JG that even comes close to what we saw from Kamara....if for no other reason that makes it different, and not a good comparison.

point being, there's nothing "obvious" about the guys behind him. it's just obvious JG is what he is, nothing more.....we hope that just being something other than JG equates to "better". so far, we haven't seen anything that suggests that.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I believe the Kamara thing is a bit overblown. Sure, he could have been used a little more in spots. But, Kamara was only at UT for 2 years. Hurd ran for almost 1300 yards in 2015 at 4.7 yards per carry. Dobbs also had 671 rushing yards, so that's nearly 2,000 between 2 other players. I also recall people upset against OU when they ran Kamara at the goal line instead of Hurd.

Kamara got the ball more in 2016 when Hurd got hurt and eventually quit. But, John Kelly was running through defenses as well.

If our QB hadn't been a runner like Dobbs, then Kamara would have gotten it more. Just only one football.
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agree with all this, and i think the biggest sin CBJ and co made with Kamara was simply in how they used him, tactically. as we now see, in that west coast/spread offense, he's really effective. the "power spread" or whatever Jones called it just wasn't gonna take advantage of what Kamara does best....

so yeah, we say "should used kamara more" but what we really, most likely, mean is we "should have tailored the offense more around Kamara and Dobbs skill sets"....simply increasing the volumen of carries/touches in the system we ran, wasn't really gonna be enough.
 
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jakez4ut said:
agree with all this, and i think the biggest sin CBJ and co made with Kamara was simply in how they used him, tactically. as we now see, in that west coast/spread offense, he's really effective. the "power spread" or whatever Jones called it just wasn't gonna take advantage of what Kamara does best....

so yeah, we say "should used kamara more" but what we really, most likely, mean is we "should have tailored the offense more around Kamara and Dobbs skill sets"....simply increasing the volumen of carries/touches in the system we ran, wasn't really gonna be enough.
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I recall they put Hurd and Kamara in the backfield together a few times, and it was successful. It created mismatches. I wanted Chaney to do that with Gray and Chandler this year, but I guess it's not in the cards.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I recall they put Hurd and Kamara in the backfield together a few times, and it was successful. It created mismatches. I wanted Chaney to do that with Gray and Chandler this year, but I guess it's not in the cards.
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VERY few times. Came out with it against Bama in 2016 and Kamara ripped off a 20-30 yard run with Hurd blocking...then never went back to it.
 
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butchna said:
VERY few times. Came out with it against Bama in 2016 and Kamara ripped off a 20-30 yard run with Hurd blocking...then never went back to it.
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I thought I remember that they threw to Kamara down the seam one time when both were in the backfield, but yes, they didn't do it much.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I recall they put Hurd and Kamara in the backfield together a few times, and it was successful. It created mismatches. I wanted Chaney to do that with Gray and Chandler this year, but I guess it's not in the cards.
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Yea, whatever happened to Chaney saying if we don’t see Chandler ans Grey in the backfield at the same time to check on him he’s had a heart attack or something?!?
I don’t believe we’ve seen that 2 back set once this year?
 
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GojiraVol17 said:
You do realize this depth chart hasn’t changed one iota since game 1, right? Cmon man. There’s a reason they’ve not changed the depth chart. You don’t tell everybody what you’re gonna do. It’s more of a placeholder than anything. Use your head for something other than a hat rack.
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Sshhh. Don't tell them that. You're taking away one more thing for them to criticize. It's gets humorous listening to them complain about things that aren't even real..
 
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