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If my comments created a misconception, that wasn’t my intent. It isn’t all about money. Fulmer does not want to fire CJP this year. UT went into this thinking it was a five-year rebuild that would require patience, and three years in, there’s little enthusiasm for a coaching search. UT has invested in, and committed to, its HCs and does not want upheaval in its marquee sports right now. Could circumstances cause that to change? I doubt it would be Fulmer’s preference.

The hope is always that a hire will be a good fit with long-term success. Once someone is in a job for a while, it becomes apparent that the person is good at some things and not as good at others. If you look at the modern-day HCs who have had the most success at UT in various sports, you’ll see similarities beyond winning. I’ll leave it at that.

“Evwyone hath a plan, untiw they get punched in the mouth”
-Mike Tython

Also, gotta think a semi-big program in the SEC opening up forces hands.

That said, I don’t think Pruitt gets forced out just yet.
 
I don’t think Pruitt gets forced out just yet.

What does it take? My guess is that they will keep him unless he loses the rest of the games. Only then will they consider doing something if the fans create enough stink. Even then it will take a big stink to make it happen. By then it’s too late and we should have vetted coaches already.

It’s just like with Dooley and Butch. The admin gave them every chance to not get themselves fired and they still managed to fail even harder than deemed possible. Then they’re caught flat footed.
 
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QB - Bailey
RB - Gray/Small
WR - Hyatt/Wideman/Keyton
TE - Beckwith
OL - The usual 5
DL - Bailey/Thomas/Take your pick
OLB - Baron/Harrison
ILB - Toot/Mojo
CB - Slaughter/Key
Safeties - McCoullough/Fields


Not going to happen, but how would everyone feel about this IF we were going to play for the future this weekend. Make changes, discuss, etc.

If I’m Josh Palmer I lose my sh*t if this happens.
 
QB - Bailey
RB - Gray/Small
WR - Hyatt/Wideman/Keyton
TE - Beckwith
OL - The usual 5
DL - Bailey/Thomas/Take your pick
OLB - Baron/Harrison
ILB - Toot/Mojo
CB - Slaughter/Key
Safeties - McCoullough/Fields


Not going to happen, but how would everyone feel about this IF we were going to play for the future this weekend. Make changes, discuss, etc.
You had me at starting Harrison Bailey
 
If my comments created a misconception, that wasn’t my intent. It isn’t all about money. Fulmer does not want to fire CJP this year. UT went into this thinking it was a five-year rebuild that would require patience, and three years in, there’s little enthusiasm for a coaching search. UT has invested in, and committed to, its HCs and does not want upheaval in its marquee sports right now. Could circumstances cause that to change? I doubt it would be Fulmer’s preference.

The hope is always that a hire will be a good fit with long-term success. Once someone is in a job for a while, it becomes apparent that the person is good at some things and not as good at others. If you look at the modern-day HCs who have had the most success at UT in various sports, you’ll see similarities beyond winning. I’ll leave it at that.

I immediately think of Barnes. I wish all coaches could be like him.
 
Would Kiffin be an option? He's 10 years older now with a very different resume.

Genuinely curious. I know it will never happen just like Freeze but what is to stop us.
 
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What does it take? My guess is that they will keep him unless he loses the rest of the games. Only then will they consider doing something if the fans create enough stink. Even then it will take a big stink to make it happen. By then it’s too late and we should have vetted coaches already.

It’s just like with Dooley and Butch. The admin gave them every chance to not get themselves fired and they still managed to fail even harder than deemed possible. Then they’re caught flat footed.

Dooley and Butch mailed it in and wanted to get fired to collect the UT coaching lottery. I really believe they got to a point where they just wanted the buyout and was going to do whatever necessary to make that happen.

I’m really wondering with they way we have lost games and Pruitt continuing to start JG if he isn’t doing the same thing.

The thing that really chaps me about Butch is his taking a $30K job at Bama and then smoking cigars with them at Neyland after destroying a team he built. Any man with an ounce of integrity and maturity wouldn’t have even made that trip.
 
We really can stop talking about Pruitt being fired unless he has an off the field issue.

Two reasons:
1) the most important reason is fulmer knows his success as AD is attached to Pruitt.

2) fulmer also knows that with covid this season hasn’t had any normal flow for gaining consistency and that it also hasn’t included the OoC games that build confidence and depth.

fulmer ain’t pulling the trigger this season and we all know it
 
Don't take what I said as negative toward Freeze or that I wouldn't want him as coach. I was just saying we get locked on one person and I am just saying we should look at any proven coach that may be available. That's all.
I know. I just wanted to give my reasons for HF being my #1 option. Since Kiffin bolted, the last 3 hires have been disappointing. If UT is going to make a change, then I want it to be someone that has had success in the SEC as a head coach .... it's going to be a short list. Beating Saban is high on my list for qualified candidates. I hate alabama
 
We really can stop talking about Pruitt being fired unless he has an off the field issue.

Two reasons:
1) the most important reason is fulmer knows his success as AD is attached to Pruitt.

2) fulmer also knows that with covid this season hasn’t had any normal flow for gaining consistency and that is also hasn’t included the OoC games that build confidence and depth.

fulmer ain’t pulling the trigger this season and we all know it
Some folks can talk themselves into believing anything.
 
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It’s really starting to feel like we are stuck with Pruitt, JG starts again next year, and we get spanked by USCjr and whoever their new coach is...and we still don’t make a move because this is the 5-year plan, come hell or high water and egos can’t be crushed and humility is an afterthought.

JG can leave at the end of this year or he'll be made to leave. He will not be allowed to be trotted out there again next year. At some point, if no adults step up within the program to tell him to move on, there will be folks outside the program that will make it clear. Bill Battle got it really easy compared with what will happen if it remotes appears that he intends to try to return.
 
What does it take? My guess is that they will keep him unless he loses the rest of the games. Only then will they consider doing something if the fans create enough stink. Even then it will take a big stink to make it happen. By then it’s too late and we should have vetted coaches already.

It’s just like with Dooley and Butch. The admin gave them every chance to not get themselves fired and they still managed to fail even harder than deemed possible. Then they’re caught flat footed.

My decision? I’ve seen enough. 👉🏻🚪
 
Don’t want to bump his thread unnecessarily but Mohamed Kaba is a linebacker uscjr signed in ‘19. According to VQ back then, the staff was really high on him.

Wondering if he’s someone we take a look at should he decide to bail on uscjr.

IIRC he has us and unc/ncssu/uscjr and someone else in his top 5 right before announcing
 
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