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Kingston Vol said:
I wonder if the calculation for Pruitt's job stability is going to go something like this:

We know it's going to cost roughly $20m to fire him and the rest of the staff. Not a small amount of money, especially in a pandemic, but they need to put asses in seats in 2021 and a lame-duck coach doesn't sell tickets.

So, to spend that amount of money, you have to think you can hire someone who will bring some juice to the program and starting digging us out of the deficit. (I happen to believe that the entire economy is going to take off like a rocket once we get everyone a vaccine, another stimulus check, and student loan debt is waived, but that's a conversation for the Politics forum.)

Anyway, what might happen is, Fulmer is tight with a large group of coaches around the country. That fraternity is small and they all know each other. So, he might have, let's say, 5 guys he'd be interested in hiring - maybe he puts some feelers out to gauge their interest. If he likes what he hears, he goes to boosters and says, we have to make a move.

I don't think we can fire Pruitt and then start a coaching search - you have to have a few guys in your pocket. Not just because it's good business practice, but because that might be the only way to get the go ahead to let Pruitt go.
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well, i will say this, no way you fire him w/out having who's next all but a sure thing. the problem with that is, if phil is the lone ranger on that process, there's zero guarantees that everyone buys in to one he's tabbed as "next man up"....if @LAVol is correct, there's enough egos on the other side that could thwart such a move.

there's a lot of land mines in that process, especially politically....i'd almost think before he got started, he'd have to have green lights from ut admin and a large portion of the money behind the move....

in merit though, i do agree, you don't fire him, and then start looking....but i think that is what would happen. it may be easy enough to get everone going in the same direction on firing him....not so much on who we hire.

which has always been our problem....
 
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Listened to Josh Ward on Locked on PC. Normally skip this PC, as it tends to be devoid of any riveting info. Cool story bro, my background is radio & communication. Ward is very well thought of & respected. Listening, had a blurb from Urban Meyer. Lot's of underlying implication.

Show absolutely lambasted the organized 8, who chose not to help out & bigger picture. It isnt a player problem, it isnt a coach problem. It's a culture problem. Also, talked about the buyouts for Muschump & Jeremy being identical.

I've been vocal about not rushing to make a move this year. If the coaches arent on same page & culture really is that bad? And this team comes out and doesnt compete, as I fully expect them too. Then this **** show doesn't make it to 2021. Meaning, it's worth every penny of $13 to purge the toxicity.
 
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jackcrevol said:
Listened to Josh Ward on Locked on PC. Normally skip this PC, as it tends to be devoid of any riveting info. Cool story bro, my background is radio & communication. Ward is very well thought of & respected. Listening, had a blurb from Urban Meyer. Lot's of underlying implication.

Show absolutely lambasted the organized 8, who chose not to help out & bigger picture. It isnt a player problem, it isnt a coach problem. It's a culture problem. Also, talked about the buyouts for Muschump & Jeremy being identical.

I've been vocal about not rushing to make a move this year. If the coaches arent on same page & culture really is that bad? And this team comes out and doesnt compete, as I fully expect them too. Then this **** show doesn't make it to 2021. Meaning, it's worth every penny of $13 to purge the toxicity.
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We would be wise to move quickly.
 
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bignewt said:
Pruitt will get one more year regardless of how we finish. He will get a year without JG and that will be the measuring stick. Prepare your bodies.
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BruinVol said:
We really can stop talking about Pruitt being fired unless he has an off the field issue.

Two reasons:
1) the most important reason is fulmer knows his success as AD is attached to Pruitt.

2) fulmer also knows that with covid this season hasn’t had any normal flow for gaining consistency and that it also hasn’t included the OoC games that build confidence and depth.

fulmer ain’t pulling the trigger this season and we all know it
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I'm not sure that many people really believe he will get fired. I believe a lot people, however, believe he SHOULD get fired, and are talking about the upgrade options that would be on the table.
 
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I don’t think SC will get Freeze. Unless the Auburn position become available, I think he stays at Liberty for one more year. He is doing great there, no pressure, has a good Junior QB, and then can pick any job he wants in 12-14 months after COVID is gone. A normal year next year allows schools to generate the revenue needed to replace coaches.

I don’t think Pruitt gets fired this year either no matter the final record. Not being able to practice in the spring or summer will be the only excuse needed to keep him. Next year is his make or break year with HB as the QB.
 
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