Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Batman1948]

Going by the SEC bylaw posted yesterday, they have zero final say. It was more of "should" and "it is suggested".

Everyone is cheating, he just got caught, so Double Gauldens toward BHam and roll.

If we're cheating, shame on us for doing a pi$$ poor job. We need to up our game.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Man...wonder what that 2013 would have looked like if Hunter, Bray, & Patterson all came back for their senior seasons.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Man...wonder what that 2013 would have looked like if Hunter, Bray, & Patterson all came back for their senior seasons.

Made for Bajakian offense.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I may be the only one but i actually have no problem with Palmer,Johnson, and Hyatt being our main i think i like Johnson more than most tho.

I think there needs to be a rotation. Palmer is a very good receiver. Johnson is reliable but slow. I think we need more of Hyatt. He is clearly the fastest guy out there. I would just like to see what those young guys and their speed can offer. What can Wideman, Holiday, and Calloway bring to the table? I'd like to find out. They are all three faster than Palmer, Johnson, and Tillman

 

[Devo182]

VFL’s and others like Chaney. He was successful here before and believe he can be again.

It feels like a lot of perceptions are based on that 2012 offense, which was a peak. In his 4 years, he only had 1 offense that was even top-40 nationally. 1 top-4 SEC offense (out of 12 teams back then).

He's now headed to 1 top-4 SEC offense in 6 years.

Pruitt wants extra talent on defense. Chaney relies on talent, not scheme, to succeed. I just don't think that's a good fit tbh.

 

[Devo182]

Man...wonder what that 2013 would have looked like if Hunter, Bray, & Patterson all came back for their senior seasons.

And the OL was still elite. Would have been awesome.

That 2013 offense was truly sad from a talent perspective. Hardly anyone to pass to except very young so-so guys like North and Pig...and Worley passing to them. Coming off the worst defense in UT history. How they even made it to 5-7 is surprising.

 

[butchna]

easy to look smart with the tools he had. Dobbs Kamara Hurd plus some good receivers.

Easy to look stupid also if it doesn’t work.

 

[butchna]

Man...wonder what that 2013 would have looked like if Hunter, Bray, & Patterson all came back for their senior seasons.

Bray wouldn’t have been eligible.

 

[VolGee4]

And the OL was still elite. Would have been awesome.

That 2013 offense was truly sad from a talent perspective. Hardly anyone to pass to except very young so-so guys like North and Pig...and Worley passing to them. Coming off the worst defense in UT history. How they even made it to 5-7 is surprising.

Probably Butch's best coaching job. Bad roster. UGA game at home was electric...and should have won. Also screwed by replay against Vandy.

 

[VOLED]

We're going to Start HB and score 50 points, and everyone is going to be pissed because we didn't see him earlier right?

we could only hope

 

[Vols4us]

Time to win if we haven't forgotten how. Time to commit to the youth movement. Hand it over to HB. Watch what happens to the team's mojo from that point on. If they win at least two and the team turns up the intensity and focus - CJP can survive this mess.

No coach could win enough with #2. None. The problem is our HC would not concede that point.

 

[volfaninpa]

Probably Butch's best coaching job. Bad roster. UGA game at home was electric...and should have won. Also screwed by replay against Vandy.

I was a Butch believer after that season until the losses to Florida/Arkansas in Dobbs' junior year.

It's almost like being impressed with Pruitt's year 1 Auburn win, but having real doubts by the Georgia State loss and here we sit.

 

[rekinhavoc]

If Pruitt loses to Vandy. He's done.

Dad used to say, you can survive a loss to Fla or Bama. Dont lose to Vandy.

I agree. Kentucky and Vandy in the same year is a no no.

 

[Devo182]

I don't have any specific examples to point to, but I think the take on Pruitt and his offense is slightly off. I gather from hearing past interviews and reading articles that he actually wants to have an offense that dials up the explosive pass plays and makes chunk gains by pushing the ball downfield. I think it probably frustrates him as much or more than us to watch our "offense" these days. I get the impression that he is more upset when our QB's don't take shots downfield and that's at least partly why JG has been getting the call this season.

Now I don't think that its entirely the other QB's faults. I think ball security is obviously stressed as the most important factor and I think those guys are probably so scarred about even the thought of what will come their way if they turn it over they are gun shy on taking shots downfield. For example, after HB's checkdown drive against Ark I think Pruitt was more upset he didn't pick a spot and take at least a deep shot over the middle or sideline at some point till it was too late and he forced the pick in the endzone.

I'm probably way off base here, but IMO I don't think Pruitt wants to run 40+ times a game, I think he wants to push the ball downfield in the pass game and be explosive, we just don't have the capacity to do it right now consistently. Whether its because most of our WRs can't get separation, our protection isn't good enough or our QBs dont trust themselves to execute and let it fly and risk it. Probably a combo of all those factors. Feel like I just see too many play calls that are designed to take a shot deep and for whatever reason the ball never gets out there.

TL;DR - I'm reaching here and hoping for the best, please save us #MariettaTatterTosser5

Shooting for explosive plays is not something we have a problem with (Arky being a major outlier). Even with the different Arky game, JG is 3rd in the sec in Average Depth of Target. It was the same last year and Maurer was way up there too. It is the scheme to throw vertically deeper than most teams.

The problem isn't taking too few shots or pushing the ball vertically, it is avoiding 1/2 of the horizontal field, zero motion, very little play action, no eye candy, no stressing the defense...really nothing to give us freebie yards. We are a gift to DCs right now, they just have to roll their players out there and play straight up, stop our deep throws and limit our run game. Easy.

This is the most "complex simplistic" offense I've ever seen. Heavy on the playbook/hard to learn and execute, yet very simple to defend.

 

[millst987]

OMG, did Bruce Feldman just throw gas on the Freeze hire?

 

[pierce60]

OMG, did Bruce Feldman just throw gas on the Freeze hire?

He say something on Finebaum?

 

[millst987]

He say something on Finebaum?

Rumor that he said Freeze wants UT job and is willing to wait

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Also, based on that press conference I'd bet that HB gets the start.

If Bailey starts, Tennessee wins.

 

[butchna]

Time to win if we haven't forgotten how. Time to commit to the youth movement. Hand it over to HB. Watch what happens to the team's mojo from that point on. If they win at least two and the team turns up the intensity and focus - CJP can survive this mess.

No coach could win enough with #2. None. The problem is our HC would not concede that point.

Just want progress and effort. Haven’t seen it.

 

[pierce60]

That Justin Hunter injury still haunts me. He was going to be special even at the next level imo.

Hunter was special at UT, but sadly he didn’t have the drive to be special in the NFL. He had the opportunity after his injury, but never took full advantage of it.

 

[pierce60]

Rumor that he said Freeze wants UT job and is willing to wait

Seriously?? Wow!!

 

[volatil]

Rumor that he said Freeze wants UT job and is willing to wait

 

[rekinhavoc]

Write a check today and let Freeze notify Liberty. Pruitt can go back to Bama and help Butch wax the Mercedes.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Win/win if true

We get Freeze or Pruitt does enough to get us to the next level.

Or not


and Pruitt goes 6-6 and buys himself an extra year. Which is the Vols way.

 

[Devo182]

I’ll go one further - after how Price ended the two minute drill that I just listened to, I’m reading into it that someone has told him HB is likely to start but to not let the cat out of the bag.

Price said "TROT".

AP reads VN...