Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[HoleInTheRoof]

Well, in year three, Pruitt should have been expected to sign some pass rushers and linebackers. We've got To'o To'o and two runningbacks in the middle and nothing on the defensive ends.

He’s recruited well. Best players on this team are freshman and sophomores.

None of which were really able to be developed this offseason.

But again, Gump bad. Freeze or I’m done!!!!

 

[RiotVol]

Plus 2 relative rookies coaching the LB positions. Really missing Sherrer and Rumph.

Kivon Bennett was poised to break out this year. Crouch and Banks are talented, but haven't really progressed.

We probably miss Rocker too, even if he was a recruiting liability.

 

[VolsNUT]

I could get behind a Marrone hire. All the more reason it won't happen though.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Not far back in this thread. Hell even you just said we have the talent to have beaten everyone except Alabama.

everyone that we have played so far. GA is not good. Ga nearly lost to MSU who had 45 players. Our other losses are a mediocre AU team, KY, and Arkansas. You're going to say that we don't have the talent to match up with them? This isn't Pruitt hate, this is true. Isn't like I'm saying we have the talent to beat Bama, Clemson, and OSU good grief

 

[Kingston Vol]

Plus 2 relative rookies coaching the LB positions. Really missing Sherrer and Rumph.

Right - the offensive issues are not surprising to me. Pruitt is not breaking the mold by being a defensive coach who mismanages his offense once he gets a head coaching job. We've seen that over and over throughout college football.

But his inability to recruit true difference makers on the front seven of the defense has been confounding, and hiring two recruiters at LB coach because he assumed he and Ansley could pick up the slack has proven to be a terrible decision.

 

[MrVolton]

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Hard to judge because all these teams have a history of being terrible

Syracuse had also just won a total of something like 10 games in the four years prior to Marrone’s arrival, including a couple of one win seasons iirc. To go from that to conference champ in year 4 is quite an accomplishment.

 

[HankHill]

at the people who can look at our linebackers and our zero pass rush and our trash except for the one unknown at QB and declare we have the talent to “play with anyone.”

You all are blinded by your hatred of Pruitt.

Pruitt has had 3 classes to find players at the most important positions. That’s been his biggest failure. QB, Edge/OLB, OT, DT, Are the money positions. Look at the production we are getting from his classes there.

2018:
JJ Peterson
Emerson
Jordan Allen
Emmit goodin
Shrout
Mincey
Garland
Kingston harris
Antonunitti
Carvin

2019:
Wright
Morris
Crouch
Savion Williams
Maurer
Middleton
Simmons
Akporoghene

There’s some ok production in that list but a lot of nothing.

2020 appears to have some decent pieces but not sure there’s a real difference maker at any of those positions yet. Maybe they are but it’s still too early either way.

 

[Kingston Vol]

He’s recruited well. Best players on this team are freshman and sophomores.

None of which were really able to be developed this offseason.

But again, Gump bad. Freeze or I’m done!!!!

I see you've decided to zig when everyone else has zagged. I understand it, and the hipster in me respects it, but your commitment to the schtick has blinded you to the fact that I've neither called Pruitt "Gump" nor am I advocating for Hugh Freeze.

We're on pace for 3-7 in Year 3. That's not acceptable. Defend it all you want.

 

[KB5252]

Gump man bad!

Freeze or I’m done!!!!

~rinse~repeat~

That's not the impression I'm getting from the majority here. It's more like.....

Pruitt's in over his head, he isn't head coach material.

We really need to quit with hiring second tier up and comers and hoping we strike gold, we need a proven commodity, the obvious answer is Freeze.

It's fair to ask if Freeze is realistic, because I have doubts. But the comment about the echo chamber is a little silly, especially when you're really just echoing the opposite end of the spectrum, your thoughts aren't any more or less redundant than theirs.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Right - the offensive issues are not surprising to me. Pruitt is not breaking the mold by being a defensive coach who mismanages his offense once he gets a head coaching job. We've seen that over and over throughout college football.

But his inability to recruit true difference makers on the front seven of the defense has been confounding, and hiring two recruiters at LB coach because he assumed he and Ansley could pick up the slack has proven to be a terrible decision.

What are your thoughts on Marrone? The more and more I think about it I think he would be a great hire. NFL experience coupled with his time at Syracuse make for an intriguing option. Not to mention his prior relationship as an assistant coach during Fulmer's tenure. He also spent some time at Georgia Tech prior to that.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

You say it's not hard to win 8 games here. And initially, I agree with you. After a year or two of development, we should win 8 games a year.

That's a 66% winning percentage - winning 8 of 12.

Since Neyland, exactly three coaches have done it here:
Battle, Dickey and Fulmer

And those coaches coached for a good period of our history. Then we hired some bad coaches. But a decent coach wins 8 games a year here. We can out talent every team we play not named Florida, Georgia, or Bama. That’s why I keep saying go get Chadwell or Napier. Both have won everyone they’ve gone. Shoot, Fleck or Brohm could win 8 a year here. It doesn’t take a Saban to win here. I left out Freeze since I know you don’t like him.

 

[KB5252]

at the people who can look at our linebackers and our zero pass rush and our trash except for the one unknown at QB and declare we have the talent to “play with anyone.”

You all are blinded by your hatred of Pruitt.

We have one linebacker and two athletes playing out of position. Who recruited them for the position they aren't suited for in this league?

 

[volfaninpa]

If Fulmer does have the say in this hire, Marrone makes a lot of sense. If Fulmer isn't making the decision, I don't see any way it would be Marrone.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Had Bailey had the entire offseason to prepare, I’d likely agree.

But we are a JG led team.

Because our head coach does not deserve to be the leader of our program. Any decent coach would have rushed to have Bailey ready or taken a grad transfer.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I could get behind a Marrone hire. All the more reason it won't happen though.

Someone posted his college and NFL records earlier. Here's his college record again. Would one of you all explain to me why Doug Marrone is a great hire?

 

[Kingston Vol]

What are your thoughts on Marrone? The more and more I think about it I think he would be a great hire. NFL experience coupled with his time at Syracuse make for an intriguing option. Not to mention his prior relationship as an assistant coach during Fulmer's tenure. He also spent some time at Georgia Tech prior to that.

Marrone is a good coach, but he's only had one college job since he left here in 2001 - and that was to resurrect his Alma Mater. I don't think it's realistic to expect him to take a college job, especially one as dependent on recruiting as Tennessee.

If he were the hire, I have no doubt we'd get to a 6 or 7 win floor, but I'd have to see the staff he built to think we could get any higher.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

No guarantees, though I will agree that he is way more likely to do it than anyone else we have had since Fulmer. Still, I don't think he's a slam dunk.

Like Hank said, he beats the 4 OOC and KY, Candy, SC, and MZ. Freeze can do that consistently.

 

[RiotVol]

Because our head coach does not deserve to be the leader of our program. Any decent coach would have rushed to have Bailey ready or taken a grad transfer.

I still am just baffled by all of this. Pruitt is acting like the brilliant professor who becomes a department head and is just terrible at it.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

He’s recruited well. Best players on this team are freshman and sophomores.

None of which were really able to be developed this offseason.

But again, Gump bad. Freeze or I’m done!!!!

This just simply isn’t true. We had plenty of practices. Yes some freshmen didn’t get to practice as much because of contact tracing, but a majority did and they still aren’t playing. Pruitt is severely mismanaging this roster and it’s costing us games. Seen Bailey a few times and he has made our offense look better every time than JG playing. Hey he continues to play him. And yes it is Pruitts call.

 

[RiotVol]

It takes all of two minutes to read Freeze’s wiki to see that’s our guy if we can sell the redemption story and get ol’ boy some burner phones.

 

[MrVolton]

Sark I have mixed feelings on. I like the thought of the next HC being someone with really good offensive experience. But he didn't do anything special in his brief tenure at USC and was known as 7-win Sark at UW, which got to be pretty good under Petersen (who is probably a generational coach, to be fair). I don't know. It's a roll of the dice, but so many things are.

He won 9 in his lone full year at USC which is kind of hard to judge, all things considered. His turnaround at Washington was pretty impressive though, especially considering they were winless the year before he got there, and may have won a total of 7 games in the 3 years prior to his arrival.

 

[bignewt]

Your 2021 head coach game 1 is Pruitt.

As for who your head coach is game 1 of 2022, that is up for interpretation.

 

[KB5252]

He’s recruited well. Best players on this team are freshman and sophomores.

None of which were really able to be developed this offseason.

But again, Gump bad. Freeze or I’m done!!!!

A second year player that cannot get on the field is not better than third or fourth year player getting starting reps for obvious reasons. If they are and Pruitt refuses to play them that would be another indicator he's not competent... obviously. Either way you split the scenario Pruitt isn't it.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Your 2021 head coach game 1 is Pruitt.

As for who your head coach is game 1 of 2022, that is up for interpretation.

Not if he loses to Vandy, imo.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

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Someone posted his college and NFL records earlier. Here's his college record again. Would one of you all explain to me why Doug Marrone is a great hire?

Because most of this fanbase is fine with 6 to 8 wins a year now....its pathetic.