Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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There is risk in everyone we've discussed. Even the consensus safest hope, Campbell, has question marks about recruiting imo. He's done ok but fleck has consistently recruited better than him in similar situations. And fleck has his own question marks. My point is I don't think there is a single can't miss option available so they will probably go with who they think has the most upside and not necessarily the safest.
solid logic.

now...
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Lol ok bud. Hold on to the dream
How can you argue anything else knowing what we’ve seen first hand from Pruitt here and with the reports from him at Georgia and FSU. I don’t get how anyone can defend anything for Pruitt. He’s a dumbass, a scumbag, and literally almost burned our entire program down to ashes lol. And y’all are worried about butch selling snake oil 😂😂
 
Some highlights from yesterday as conveyed by a friend. As always, take it with a grain of salt. I’m sure certain things were lost in translation. Some of this is even third or fourth hand, but all in the family. Everyone was told White likes keeping schedules and confidentiality. Yesterday they had a schedule, and kept none of it. They did a little better with confidentiality. Flight was late getting him. Sat on the ground for an hour waiting for fog. Bogged down with meeting the boosters at TYS airport. Bogged down meeting boosters before press conference. Bogged down by boondoggle at AD office. Barnes was a hit there, introducing himself as a “guy who works here”. Barnes got sodas for his kids and toured them around, and wouldn’t give them back. The older son is in high school, and it sounds like Barnes tried to rescue him from a miserable day. I’ve gotta say that Barnes has been more important in all this than you’d imagine. He’s been all class in talking about Fulmer. He’s highly supportive of the hire, and has been a PR machine for the school. White was reeling from all the chaos. Expected to have a quick quiet meeting with Steele and players, and there were people everywhere. He barely got out of the office to make the players meeting. Barnes was still hitting him with one-liners all the way out apparently, the best being the observation that Danny is “better looking than his brother”. Met players. This meeting was private. Prior to the meeting they were given an app, and then asked to vote on team leaders. There was supposed to be a second meeting with leaders, but that will now be tomorrow. Only highlights I heard were that White told them he worked for them now. He was going to work hard for them so they can focus on being a team. By the time White left, his (alleged) conversation with Elliott already leaked after having instructed everyone on confidentiality. I don’t know if he did talk to Elliott. White knows and trusts Elliott. Elliott knows Steele. Elliott was also an inch from being the UCF head coach. If he did talk to him, I’m not sure I read this as Elliott being an option, but I assume it’s possible. It would not follow anything I’ve heard in the past about the search. Subsequently they’ve brought on a firm to handle logistics, and try to protect confidentiality. The search firm was not hired for searching. While the day was chaotic, don’t read this as a messy political process. It’s not. Boyd and Plowman are handling this like professionals. They’re going to give White the space he needs to succeed. White did not take this job to boot lick boosters. It’s his plan, and it’ll be his hire. Boyd is herding cats on the booster front. He has a lot more sway than is being portrayed. He has money ready, and he’s set up a playing field for White to succeed. There is a contingent of boosters that is strongly connected to PF and the Pruitt hire who were not included in any of the conversations of the last three weeks. A new contingent of boosters has provided the support for hiring White and giving him cover to make the hire without having to talk to boosters. .
I'm loving Barnes more everyday.

And... hmmm....it's almost like we've heard about the second (bolded) part before. 🤔
 
Chicago would be a meeting place for:

Campbell
Fleck
Fitz
Stoops
Allen

All would have the potential to be a strong program builder here in my mind.

Chicago is a central hub for flights in the US. You can get direct flights to and from there from almost anywhere.

If anyone from the UTAD is in chicago, I highly doubt it's because Chicago is specifically close enough to anyone they are interviewing for a list like this to be made.
 
How can you argue anything else knowing what we’ve seen first hand from Pruitt here and with the reports from him at Georgia and FSU. I don’t get how anyone can defend anything for Pruitt. He’s a dumbass, a scumbag, and literally almost burned our entire program down to ashes lol. And y’all are worried about butch selling snake oil 😂😂
Nobody is defending Pruitt for anything he did here. But saying he wasn’t regarded as a great DC is stupid. You can go back to 2017 and read everything that was written about him then and see for yourselves. You can also look at FSU, Ga, and Bama’s defense and see that he improved all three. You can say he’s an awful HC, he is. But he was regarded as elite. Cole Cubelic referred to him as the greatest defensive mind in the game. Not sure how we got here other than you’re wanting to turn our program over to another unproven coordinator who is basically the same as Pruitt, a coordinator at an elite football program coaching 5 stars, but who is a better person.
 
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