Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[jakez4ut]

Tennessee fans... We're self aware o
If nothing else lol

 

[mr.checkerboards]

If White is doing a lot of these things then he is doing exactly what Fulmer did: micromanaging. We need a coach that has experience being a coach. Pruitt came from a winning culture. Ours still sucked. There odd nothing to suggest that bringing a Clemson atmosphere here will work. Elliot needs to season himself at a smaller school. It would benefit him tremendously. UT is one of the most challenging jobs in the country. We don’t need a rookie.

Fulmer couldn't get those guys on the same page because half of them hated him. Pruitt was the reason our culture still sucked he's an ******* and brought it on himself. Clemsons culture is family and winning, sounds good to me. Facts are the chances of us pulling a sitting P5 coach are slim to none, coaches just don't move. Elliott has turned down multiple jobs including NFL jobs. He stayed at Clemson to learn how to be a HC. White has a successful track record, this is one where we actually need to trust the powers that be. You say we don't need a rookie, but how did that work for Lane in 09? Dooley? Butch?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

It has to be a sitting head coach. Not only is it not a job to learn on the job, but it’s especially not a learn on the job type when you have possible infractions coming from the NCAA.

Dooley and Butch were HC's. How did they work out? It doesn't have to be anything but a good coach

 

[volswillrise12]

I knew we’d hire another project coach.
It’s tony Elliot. Hiring another no name coordinator from a culture that was built for him to succeed to a place where he’s set up to fail.

We’ll be doing this again in another three years. Probably every three years.

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Well we’ve been doing it anyway—-it’s really hard to pull a sitting Power 5 coach. Plus on top of that we have the sanctions that will probably be handed done one way or the other...

 

[jakez4ut]

Lol... amateurs.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I knew we’d hire another project coach.
It’s tony Elliot. Hiring another no name coordinator from a culture that was built for him to succeed to a place where he’s set up to fail.

We’ll be doing this again in another three years. Probably every three years.

I bet you are all about Freeze and Kiffin though..amirite? Those dudes aren't any better offensive play callers than Elliott..they would both have to be paired with a good defensive staff also. And both of them have failed miserably before at running programs.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Phil $900k
Dave Hart $800k ish
Mike Hamilton $400k ish

Why did PF make that much as an inexperienced AD that was just supposed to be temporarily helping out? Wow

 

[Christian Lowe]

I bet you are all about Freeze and Kiffin though..amirite? Those dudes aren't any better offensive play callers than Elliott..they would both have to be paired with a good defensive staff also. And both of them have failed miserably before at running programs.

And Elliot has let me see.. NO experience running programs and will fail miserably here. Kiffin failed at USC for the same reasons Elliot will fail here. Kiffin ain’t doing too bad anymore though is he? Nope. I never suggested freeze.

 

[JoeyVols32]

This was a puppet show for people to keep investing money. Nothing else. Elliot? Really?? They have played us for fools but we will continue to give money for every coaching change. They know this. The checks keep rolling and the fans are sheep. I can say I am no longer a sheep. Go vols, but from afar

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And this still makes sense too.

Despite what I have been posting..I can't argue too much with that concern eithrr. It is a legitimate concern, and I understand it.

 

[jakez4ut]

You all do know there's nothing actually official on any hire yet, right?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

This was a puppet show for people to keep investing money. Nothing else. Elliot? Really?? They have played us for fools but we will continue to give money for every coaching change. They know this. The checks keep rolling and the fans are sheep. I can say I am no longer a sheep. Go vols, but from afar

Have you looked into Elliott? He isn't the same ole same ole

 

[Sleegro]

Ok.. lol I have been guessing the whole time and said so. This isn't isn't guess. Yall move tf on if you don't believe it. Is it that hard? I'll go back to reading and not give a ****. Lawd yall think a message board is it all don't you?

Come at me bro. What was yer point. I think I missed it somewhere in this silly tantrum you've been throwing for a couple pages. Seriously I'm curious. Must've scrolled by it. Was there anything worth discussing?

 

[Geronimo]

All these folks on Social media making all thes statistical posts about how great “x” coach’s offense or defense is, is pointless and mostly irrelevant. Pruitt had fantastic stats too as a D coordinator. If you have great athletes and loads of talent you should have great stats. We don’t have that. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And Elliot has let me see.. NO experience running programs and will fail miserably here. Kiffin failed at USC for the same reasons Elliot will fail here. Kiffin ain’t doing too bad anymore though is he? Nope. I never suggested freeze.

Who do you want?

 

[tnvols72]

The more I look at Elliot and consider his qualities and how good his body of work is..I would rather have him than Fleck or Cristobal or even Fickell, and I think those are all really good football coaches.

With one caveat..he has to be paired with the right defensive staff, but he has a great combination of creativity, personality, football intelligence, and gravitas...and those qualities are exactly what we need.

The ONLY downside to Elliot I can really think of is lack of HC experience, and because of our recent troubles that rightly concerns us, but should we really revolt if he is hired because of that ONE concern?

I have really changed my mind about it a lot today...now I am really really intrigued...

You know when 1st shift comes to work , they will squash all this Elliott talk and we will be on somebody that has not being mentioned yet.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Have you looked into Elliott? He isn't the same ole same ole

Same rhetoric we had when we realized it was pruitt and tried to tell ourselves it wasn’t so bad after all. It is so bad. Stop sugar coating it.

 

[Voltrapnbama]

That was for @Voltrapnbama. He proclaimed that UT had hired Elliott, I hit him with a baby powder gif, and he turned into the tazmanian devil. We went back and forth and I asked him to "like this post if HE was sober". He was getting slammed by some other posters and I think he finally rage quit and possibly passed out. I hope he's ok.

Lol

 

[Christian Lowe]

Who do you want?

To stop losing. And tony Elliot will fail like everyone before him.

 

[xtremevolfan]

Elliot 3 years ago when we hired Pruitt woulda been a great hire but to do it now when UT is on the brink of maybe never being elite again is just to big of a risk IMO.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Same rhetoric we had when we realized it was pruitt and tried to tell ourselves it wasn’t so bad after all. It is so bad. Stop sugar coating it.

Pruitt had red flag after red flag, What are Elliott's. What schools had tried to interview Pruitt? How about NFL? Good thing he could work well with others, nope couldn't do that either. All of the red flags that were there with Pruitt aren't there with Elliott.

 

[bpvol]

Not sure Fleck is the whale. At least I hope he's not the whale.

More like a grouper...or a small tuna

 

[Sleegro]

Then I guess it's settled.

We did it boyz.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Pruitt had red flag after red flag, What are Elliott's. What schools had tried to interview Pruitt? How about NFL? Good thing he could work well with others, nope couldn't do that either. All of the red flags that were there with Pruitt aren't there with Elliott.

elliot has the red flag that his success was built in for him. If he failed at clemson with the roster that was put there for him, the culture that was built there for him and the offense that was pre built for him then he truly would be an idiot. He has none of that here. And he will fail.

 

[JoeyVols32]

Have you looked into Elliott? He isn't the same ole same ole

It doesn’t matter. This is the most important hire in Tennessee history to keep players here. Elliot is not a hire to excite the players. Let’s see where we are in 5 years if we hire him. I’m willing to bet we will be questioning why we didn’t offer Campbell 10 years for 100 million. If A&M could for Jimbo, then why can’t we?