Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[RikidyBones]

He stopped because you're a chode.

Waffle house peepaw. We will Kung fu fight.

 

[JCVol00]

Expect a leak today around 2:30 et today

 

[columbia vol]

Rooting for another team to wreck us but still a fan? Not sure how that works.

Wouldn’t you like to be in a foxhole with that dude?

 

[omghulkhands]

Dinkin’ Flecka

 

[Ashevolle]

I can't just stop following Vol football. I will be cheering for Lane to wreck us, tho.
I can still be a fan without supporting any more dumb coaching hires.

Just wow..... Go pull for Ole Piss. You'll be a lot happier.

 

[Weezer]

Kirby walked into a team full of 4 and 5 stars when the SEC East was at its lowest point in years. On the Mullen front, MS State doesn't have the tradition of ever being a power house. Not like they were going to go get a top 20 HC at the time. We are TN we have tradition and we've tried the coordinator route. I want someone who's RAN a program at some level.

We haven't been a powerhouse in a long time. Our tradition doesn't mean much to anyone but us. It certainly doesn't matter to the kids we recruit. It's time we adjust to how they perceive us, and not how we perceive ourselves.

 

[volsnvikes]

Find me coordinators who their first job was a big power 5 job and had success. List is super short. Odds aren't in your favor. Kirby walked into a gold mine and has had success. If it takes more than 5 minutes to find that answer out, then there's your sign. Doesn't happen often.

Challenge accepted. Let’s see off the top of my head

Ryan Day
Dabo Sweeney
Bob Stoops
Kirby Smart
Dan Mullen (arguably not Big but neither are we at this point)

But there are hundreds that failed. Same with HC coaches moving from smaller school to larger school.

Basically past success is no guarantee of future performance. Buyer beware regardless who it is.

 

[i2amavol]

This can't be said enough.
You're 100 percent correct on this.
Its not worth the risk.

I don't know why, but I have had Elliott on my list, however, it goes against everything that I believe about what we need. I guess I'm just not very confident that we can get the proven head coach that we require. He is like the second string QB. He is much better than the starter - until he isn't.

 

[McGeesPub]

^^^^ If honestly rather keep Steele for a year and try again next year if it’s Elliott or nothing. That’s how badly I don’t want it to be Elliott

Absurd.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

Kirby walked into a team full of 4 and 5 stars when the SEC East was at its lowest point in years. On the Mullen front, MS State doesn't have the tradition of ever being a power house. Not like they were going to go get a top 20 HC at the time. We are TN we have tradition and we've tried the coordinator route. I want someone who's RAN a program at some level.

7 out of our last 11 seasons have been losing seasons. We haven't won 10 games in season in 13 years and haven't won a championship in 22 years. We aren't who we used to be and that's how people outside the program view us. We can get back to what we once were but that isn't who we are right now.

 

[BeecherVol]

You’re basing that on all the Dabo assistants that have been successful elsewhere?

Moreso the fact that Dabo hasn't had to replace a coordinator since they made their first playoff appearance in 15'.
Venables apparently has had HC options he has turned down more than once.
And the OC has only changed once since Morris took the job 10 years ago.
Which is odd for a team on that has been at or on top for extended stretch.

Saban on the other hand has won NCs with completely different staffs

 

[Bigworm87]

I"m not really sure how successful Kirby is-- he has everything there, and not better than Mark Richt, IMO.

I agree he's sustained what Richt had going on, but I can think of about 100+ other schools that would have loved to have had Georgia's record over the last few years.

 

[vmivol00]

Not wrong.

When taking about Elliott, there's very good reasoning on both sides of the conversation...

I do lean this way tho. They want experience first, rightfully so. Elliott is a smokescreen, and fall back imo.

But... If we wind up there... He's not Pruitt 2.0. he's much more highly regarded as a HC candidate, by a pretty large audience... And has a really consistent track record.

I don’t think Elliott is more highly regarded than Pruitt was. You can find quote after quote of highly respected coaches saying Pruitt had the highest potential of anyone and he was an amazing hire. Look how that worked out. TN shouldn’t be a place for coaching experiments and first timers.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Bro come on. You are clamoring for an OC who has never run a program and trashing Chadwell who just won the coach of the year.

Chadwell is fools gold

 

[daj2576]

Wouldn’t you like to be in a foxhole with that dude?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Chadwell is fools gold

better thanba coordinator

 

[Okboomer]

If he's running mis information campaigns at UCF, imagine what he's doing here lol.

Make no mistake I’m sure his people have an account here on VN already. He claimed in a interview to be all over the internet/ social media thing. We got us an AD finally

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Campbell, Fickell, Fleck. It does seem weird that no one has come out and said Campbell is not interested and ruled himself out................

 

[BloodShovel]

We haven't been a powerhouse in a long time. Our tradition doesn't mean much to anyone but us. It certainly doesn't matter to the kids we recruit. It's time we adjust to how they perceive us, and not how we perceive ourselves.

Our program has been terrible from the time they were old enough to follow college football. Gotta change the perception.

 

[HankHill]

Gut feeling Hank. We get him?

Idk. Depends how much white wants him and return. There’s buzz about him contacting potential assistants but idk if i believe that

 

[HankHill]

Campbell, Fickell, Fleck. It does seem weird that no one has come out and said Campbell is not interested and ruled himself out................

Honestly, if that’s our 3. That’s the best coaching search list we’ve had literally ever. All 3 would be absolute home runs.

 

[MarcoVol]

I can't just stop following Vol football. I will be cheering for Lane to wreck us, tho.
I can still be a fan without supporting any more dumb coaching hires.

Dude just call up Lane and ask him out on a date already

 

[jakez4ut]

Rooting for another team to wreck us but still a fan? Not sure how that works.

Well.. He's a troll.

Expect a leak today around 2:30 et today

 

[Bigworm87]

7 out of our last 11 seasons have been losing seasons. We haven't won 10 games in season in 13 years and haven't won a championship in 22 years. We aren't who we used to be and that's how people outside the program view us. We can get back to what we once were but that isn't who we are right now.

I understand that, but I can promise you there's always going to be a lot more interest in the TN than the Ms State job. The last time MS state hired an sitting head coach before Leach was 1991. We've made sh!tty head coaching hires, but TN still has the pull to get a sitting head coach. Now the caliber of that coach, idk, but people still know the draw this place can have with the money and resources it has.

 

[jakez4ut]

I agree he's sustained what Richt had going on, but I can think of about 100+ other schools that would have loved to have had Georgia's record over the last few years.

The upgrade UGA got was on the recruiting front. The results on the field.. Relatively flat.

And yes, sign me up for all of that for TN... And I'm good.