Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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It shouldnt be the only reason, but wanting to be here in particular over some place else matters. Especially right now. This wouldnt just be another job to Chadwell, like it would for other mercenary coaches (Pruitt, Butch). It’s probably something he dreamed about as a Child, like many of us here.
It is and should remain a nice afterthought.
 
I've been on the Choo Choo Chadwell train since Day 1. I'd much prefer we give this guy a shot over Elliot or Dykes. Chadwell has revived not one, but TWO different programs. He has HC experience. He has an innovative offensive mind. And he has a great personality and is from East Tennessee. He would fight like hell for this program. It's the no brainer choice if you missed on all your big fish.
i'm coming around to this line of thought.
 
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agreed. and on Chadwell, i've not been as warm to that idea as some others, but.....if you're going to take our situation and deduce that time is actually on the coach's side, then that affords a guy like chadwell some built in "do over" time while he figures things out....i think staff is important there....but i don't think you hire chadwell, or elliot, and say "gotta be in ATL by year 3" or set stuff in stone.....

the ability to filter outside noise will be extremely important for whoever is hired. not a shot at fans, but they're included, b/c recruiting will be difficult no matter who it is, and the roster seems to deplete itself daily lol....so i'd expect some serious lumps on the field early on.

if we're gonna do this, and we are, there has to be some patience at this point.
I would argue this is just about the perfect time to hire someone like Chadwell. He's going to have a built-in excuse the first couple of years if things don't get going right away.

"Well all the good players transferred." "Pruitt wasn't developing any of these guys." "There are scholarship reductions, he can't compete right now." "COVID really stunted spring practice." "We've got a two year post-season ban how could he get his guys to play hard when there's nothing to play for?"

The list goes on and on and on.
 
Per the podcast part of Chadwell's personal email has "give him six" in it. And he named his son after Heath Shuler which we all know. Just hire him.
Part of my personal email includes “Vols” and I named one of my dogs Knox, but UT probably shouldn’t hire me. However, I would accept the position at the bargain price of $4mil/yr.
 
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I remember Danny Dub said something along the lines of "You don't need me if you're just going to go down the list of 5 and choose somebody"

If he brings back Elliott or Chadwell, isn't that all he's done?
Not at all....... I think he looks for certain qualities that a coach has to have to succeed....he starts with a list of coaches with those qualities and rates them and goes by that list.....some of them may cross over to our list as well but it’s not guaranteed.
 
I just read over about 5 pages, and with each candidate that I initially was on the fence about, like a Chadwell or even Elliot, I find myself thinking “at least it isn’t Sonny Dykes.” DW trying to mind F us these last 24 hours.
 
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A 15-year dumpster fire of a program + (potential) severe NCAA sanctions makes this job a tough sell, even when offering $8 mil/year.
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Money alone isn't going to buy our way out of this. UT is a hornet's nest, admin just whacked it with a big stick, the NCAA will take another swing and some coaches don't want to get caught up in the swarm. Trying to buy guys who really don't want to be at UT likely leads to more instability.

Right now, UT has incompatible goals. Moving forward means reconciling that.
 
Fulmer had zero intention of retiring. He fully planned to work with Pruitt to address obvious problems in the program and was planning that right up until he was called into Plowman's office to get the ultimatum. UT gave him an out because it was advantageous to the university and leadership to do so. Plowman was fake nice because she needed the confidentiality agreement.

Things like this always come at a cost. The way it was handled has caused several long-time donors to threaten to pull funding. Some will back down; some won't.
Are you saying some think Fulmer was treated poorly? As someone that loves coach fulmer and was excited to see him get his shot at AD thinks that's ridiculous. His hire was a total catastrophe that will have long lasting negative implications for Vol football.
 
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