Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[ChattaTNVol]

I don’t love the idea of paying him that level money. But you right I think that you have no chance of getting him otherwise. Look at what A&M committed to Jimbo. That’s the neighborhood we’d have to be in...

Right. What I posted was my definition of Badassery. With much love and respect to LA and money not being the issue, uhm, yeah it is, and to claim all the other things get in the way is just excuses. I spent a career in corporate life. Money talks and BS walks. This time is not different and our circumstances are not unique. If that's our excuse then that's what it is and all it is. Whether it's the APR, the lack of talent on the roster, the NCAA, or whatever, there's always going to be excuses for mediocrity. We need to either go Big or go home. jmo.

 

[Ttucke11]

Like I said before... maybe hire Steele dirt cheap save the money keep him for 3 years then when the NCAA bullsh** is over we will be ready for the big fish.

Just take a long look at your Avi and realize that is not an option.

 

[BearCat204]

AP^

Never though I would hate a UT media person as much as I did Mike Griffith......but here we are.

 

[LA Vol]

I think people are going to be pretty stunned by the contract if we hire Chadwell or Elliott or anyone on that level.

We're going to have to pay more than they're worth and make the contract really favorable.

We're going to be overpaying, no matter what. And the deal is going to be so loaded with sweeteners, finance and legal will choke while reviewing it.

Just like UT did for the AD. Ditto for any high-level assistants we attempt to hire. We're going to pay and pay and pay for years.

 

[engineerVOL]

At this point I feel like our ADW is like the proverbial teacher at the front of the class waiting for us (the fans on social) to shut up before he will announce a hire.

Arms crossed standing in front of the blackboard. “I’m waiting. Your just wasting your own time...”

Now THAT is a funny visual. Lol

 

[snowvols]

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yes, some don't like the way it was all orchestrated. Hiring Pruitt was a terrible choice, exacerbated by other bad choices. You can make a problem go away or you can make it worse.

Is it of your opinion that Plowman/Boyd intentionally burned it to the ground to oust Fulmer/Pruitt? They wanted to make sure there was no way that Pruitt would survive? Did they do this to save the buyout?

 

[Aesius]

We're going to be overpaying, no matter what. And the deal is going to be so loaded with sweeteners, finance and legal will choke while reviewing it.

Just like UT did for the AD. Ditto for any high-level assistants we attempt to hire. We're going to pay and pay and pay for years.

And it will all be 100% worth it if we can nail this hire.

 

[PA Vol]

I think a lot of people gave up on Kiffin because they feel he would of already been hired if he was a target but....if they were going after a Franklin or Campbell first....it would make sense Kiffin could be a third option or so. Rightfully so. Maybe ol Kiffin ain't out of this thing yet.

Don't tease.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Just so y’all know i do think there is an Avenue to success with Dykes. I actually think bailey would fit his offense more than anyone else mentioned.

Go away with this take

 

[Adam2014]

Almost Tony Basilio time. If you want to laugh I encourage you to tune in.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Someone on here has to know a current player. We just need to know when the team meeting is scheduled. That's all that matters at this point.

I have a guy. But as of last night, the players knew nothing at all no meeting scheduled and they have been told nothing. That was last night tho. I'll ask again.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Swains saying one of our dumba** fans emailed Sunny Dykes saying we don’t want him. He apparently responded saying he doesn’t wanna be at our dumpster fire of a place with a bunch of redneck fans lol

I choose to believe this happened.


IT AIN'T DYKES!!!

 

[Ashevolle]

Like I said before... maybe hire Steele dirt cheap save the money keep him for 3 years then when the NCAA bullsh** is over we will be ready for the big fish.

Another 3 years moving away from relevance is how you end up like Georgia Tech

 

[KeyVol14]

Of course.

I don’t lol

 

[BearCat204]

I’m just not worried about the hire, I have the utmost faith in DW.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think the key to Campbell isn't just his salary. I think you throw in a hefty signing bonus but even more than that I think you double the pool of money available for his staff. According to data from USA Today, his current staff is paid a collective amount around $4.6m. Ours was a bit over $6m. Make that $9m so it's not just about Matt; It's also about the men who work for him. I could be wrong but I don't think ISU can compete in a bidding war with us if we went that direction but I also think the difference has to be more than just a bit higher. Again, I could be wrong, but I think Matt is the Jon Gruden of this search and at some point if we don't catch lightning in a bottle we may have to make someone the highest paid coach in all of college football if we want to get out of our rut. Hopefully that would be someone that almost everyone thinks can do the job and not someone we all have to hope can survive. We need a guy who is universally perceived as the absolute best hire of the season and we shouldn't be embarrassed by what we have to spend, if we do in fact have FU money to spend. jmo.

agree with all this, and i'd just add, you'd almost have to include something in the contracts to all but guarantee some job security for a relatively long-ish period of time, imo. i liked the idea of the rotating multi year deal, that has some set expiration date, as far as the rotating goes.....

anyway, all that to say... you're right. you either do that, or go the route that's been discussed with Chadwell/Elliot....

*all of this is assuming other options are off the table...lol.

 

[Catbone]

Another 3 years moving away from relevance is how you end up like Georgia Tech

We are headed that way regardless. We missed on the big fishes

 

[Christian Lowe]

Swains saying one of our dumba** fans emailed Sunny Dykes saying we don’t want him. He apparently responded saying he doesn’t wanna be at our dumpster fire of a place with a bunch of redneck fans lol

People probably did the same with Franklin and that’s how we got to Elliott and dykes in the first place. Sometimes I wish our fans would shut the **** uo

 

[ShreveportVol]

It’s real ****** playing NCAA 14 and getting a bunch of yards with eric gray knowing it won’t happen in reality

Man, I did a whole roster overhaul for next year, figured I'd add in Dylan Brooks, Terrence Lewis, etc. and almost went ahead and put in Nyland Green.... now I wanna start a new one so bad but I refuse to commit to a roster till fall camp lol

 

[jakez4ut]

We should go the Danny White / big fish route. Whales aren't fish. Sharks are. Great White.

 

[BruinVol]

Still no denial on Franklin!

Get it done DW!!!

 

[Ashevolle]

We are headed that way regardless.

All the more reason to make a bold move

 

[NMVol]

Go away with this take

A Sykes/Steele redemption story may not jazz all the fan base but I would think it could fly.

Edit: Did Dykes really call us red necks?

 

[Rizzo924]

At this point I feel like our ADW is like the proverbial teacher at the front of the class waiting for us (the fans on social) to shut up before he will announce a hire.

Arms crossed standing in front of the blackboard. “I’m waiting. Your just wasting your own time...”

Ha! I have wondered if part of this secrecy is to show D(F)W is really in control... that there's a new sheriff in town!