Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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Everything @AtlantaVol shared was true. We had a big hire on the line and it was Franklin for sure. But didn’t happen. Some deals don’t get done. No investigation then we spend the money for the right guy. Gives me hope we will spend for a good staff and have a guy who wants to be here. Time to support and hope this guy is it.
I believe almost everything AV stated was wrong. You don’t stop with Franklin if he declines. There were several more candidates that were worth FU money offers. Bringing in his own coach is an extremely bad look and is going to taint Whites reputation. White is not impressive at all during this coaching search. It has made us even a larger laughingstock today then we were the day before Pruitt was fired.
 
I seen LA comment about this isn’t what Steele envisioned. What did he envision? Being the Hc? Being DC for a different candidate? What happened to wanting to see your university through this? All changes when you realize you can take 900k for two weeks of work lol. Can’t believe we don’t have some kind of out in thst contract somewhere.
Really? lol.
 
Thanks, Donde.

I actually don't see it as an issue at this point. She foresaw a scenario where coaches would be terminated, other coaches would be looking for work and not caring about the current team, and she needed someone from the outside to attempt to hold it together. While she had a timeline in mind, it doesn't always work out that way. We are spending 900k over 2 years when we currently saved 12 million (maybe less with a settlement).
 


We're going to be forced to keep Tee, who did absolutely nothing with the WRs this year, just because of some stupid drama that isn't even the JH's fault. I was really excited about getting Kodi Burns, too.


I wouldn't keep or pay a severance to Tee just out of principle. If these leaves a few WR's butt hurt.....don't let the door hit you on the way out. These WR's need to wake up. They are getting ready to feast in this offense if they will get out of their own way. Stop listening to the negative noise.
 
In an earlier post I looked at the general conditions and aspirations of the program here at Tennessee and some of the similarities and challenges we share with the program at Nebraska. One of the suggestions I heard from the Nebraska side is that as a program they needed to find a new identity. They’ve mostly given up on going back to what they were when Osborne was there.

So I got to thinking about us. What sort of identity could we establish that might take us back up the mountain to the pinnacle of college football?

General Robert Reese Neyland was considered by many to be the Father of modern football. Granted, that consideration, and the modern part, is pretty well dated now.

“People think I’m the greatest damn coach in the world,” said Coach Bear Bryant, “but Neyland taught me everything I know.”

Bryant coached against Neyland in 7 games and never beat him.

What was so special about Coach Neyland. Why was he so successful? Beyond the man, what did he do for the game that earned him such accolades?

Throughout my life, and it’s been long, one word that I’ve often heard associated with Coach Neyland that may be the key to our future is that in his time Coach Neyland was considered one of the greatest innovators in the history of the game.

I know a lot of our fans who post here recognize the young coaches of today that are considered the new innovators. I think if we’re going to be at a talent disadvantage then maybe our path back to the top might be with a young innovator.

The media has to generate content to make money so we see all sorts of lists ranking this and that. Some of those lists turn out to be laughable in hindsight. Popularity is often a fleeting thing; only the best retain that popularity indefinitely.

In recent years Josh Heupel has been hailed as one of the top young coaches of today in the game of college football. During his junior year at OU his OC was Mike Leach. He learned the Pirate’s offense that year and while Mike went on to Texas Tech the next year, Josh’s senior year, Josh took what he had learned from the Pirate to the National Championship game for OU and brought home the trophy, while also being runner up for the Heisman.

As you might expect, getting fired from OU years later had some effect on him. I’m not sure from what I can gather if he was hurt or just flat out pissed off. While he was at Missouri Odom was asked if could sense if Heupel was still bitter that his alma mater fired him? “You bet”, replied Odom.

“He approaches every day with a chip on his shoulder,” Odom said. “He’s a competitive dude. He’s got something to prove and he acts like it every day.”

“He’s a rocket-science brain surgeon,” offensive line coach Glen Elarbee said. “Rocket surgery, whatever you want to call it — he’s freaking smart, man.”

Bob Stoops never doubted Heupel would have success elsewhere. It just wasn’t going to be at Oklahoma. Speaking of Heupel's mounting success, Stoops said, “Josh is an excellent coach, an innovator. It’s no surprise to me.”

Innovation is about being creative and moving forward toward the future not trying to go back to the past. The door is open; there’s at least a chance we may be on the right track now. jmo.
 


We're going to be forced to keep Tee, who did absolutely nothing with the WRs this year, just because of some stupid drama that isn't even the JH's fault. I was really excited about getting Kodi Burns, too.

Nah. Heupel will man up and hire his own guy. Players will either get on board or git.
 
She had to involve NCAA. Everyone in college football knew we were committing lots of recruiting violations.

Except she didn't, she could have said something along the lines of "We'll fully corporate with the NCAA in anyway we can, we're currently looking into the matter internally and will take appropriate actions if necessary."

Cause that puts the ball in the NCAA's court to pony up the man power and funds to do the investigation. What she did was paid a third party to do it and then handed the NCAA all the evidence (probably far more than they would have found on their own).
 


We're going to be forced to keep Tee, who did absolutely nothing with the WRs this year, just because of some stupid drama that isn't even the JH's fault. I was really excited about getting Kodi Burns, too.

He loves the coach who recruited him...nonstory.
 
Except she didn't, she could have said something along the lines of "We'll fully corporate with the NCAA in anyway we can, we're currently looking into the matter internally and will take appropriate actions if necessary."

Cause that puts the ball in the NCAA's court to pony up the man power and funds to do the investigation. What she did was paid a third party to do it and then handed the NCAA all the evidence (probably far more than they would have found on their own).

But did we have the time to wait on the NCAA?
 
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