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Blake25p said:
I get the feeling certain guys weren’t being held accountable by the previous staff and I think the majority of those guys are no longer apt of the program.
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feels that way. cant run your business showing preferential treatment. **** like this happens, oh, and cheating. cant do that.
 
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I was looking at Rivals last night and there are three four star QBs in the state for 22 are we not in on the two that aren’t Ty?
 
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TNDCVol said:
I was looking at Rivals last night and there are three four star QBs in the state for 22 are we not in on the two that aren’t Ty?
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Kaden Martin is not a power 5 QB and should stick to baseball anyways. I haven’t seen Carter play but I’m sure JH can make him work if he’s accurate enough.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
This thinking is correct: if you have A+ development, you can win with C+ classes.

However, my issue is this exact same line of thinking was used when both Butch and Pruitt were hired.

We expected Butch to be a bad recruiter because he had never been in the SEC but he turned out to be pretty good at selling the university - just couldn’t evaluate and develop SEC talent.

We expected Pruitt to be a great recruiter and when the 2018 and 2019 classes were lackluster we ran with “these guys know how to teach football we’ll be fine.”

I guess the point I’m trying to make is, we are assuming Heupel is a great developer of talent, but with little evidence to support it. We’re fans and we want things to be, so we act like they are.

None of these points means we won’t be successful and win more than we lose under Heupel, but when someone like @de1conley says they are concerned about recruiting, it’s a legitimate concern. In the absence of knowing Heupel is an elite developer, it makes sense that we want/need to recruit at an elite level immediately to give ourselves some wiggle room.

B development with C+ recruiting will win 6 games a year and we’ll be doing this again in 2024.
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The fact that you respect the barbers opinion just massively lowered my respect for your opinion..that dude is a vindictive, agenda driven moron. I absolutely loath that he has any influence over kids. If Buck thinks like that hack, then that just goes to show more than ever that VFLs are a massive part of the problem. We will never get back if they continue to be roadblocks to everything that is not their idea.

Conley is a cancer, and I really hope that Buck is nothing like him.
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
Never done the Dragon but will be this summer. Heard cops are writing tickets there now unfortunately. Probably still worth the trip.
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I think if you run with a pack you would be fine. There shouldn't be many places the cops can post up for ticketing purposes on that road.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I think Butch could do pretty good at Arkansas State. They’re paying him $850k/year plus incentives. He has a $2m buyout but I think he’s trying to restart his career. Our severance pay ran out last year.

I’m not sure what his career trajectory is, probably from A-State to some ACC, B1G, or B12 school. I don’t think he ever comes back to the SEC. I think the job here was just too big for him. I think the job here is perhaps too big for most coaches. I think Butch lost control of the job here and I think that is a flaw in his character, not so much moral, more like fortitude. jmo.

I watched his introductory press conference but skipped a lot of his answers to questions because he’s as long winded as ever and it’s mostly all coach-speak. He didn’t really talk about Tennessee other that thanking Saban for accepting a rival coach into his organization back when we fired him.

He said he thought he improved as a coach by working for a defensive minded head coach. Also said A-State had the best facilities and best football program in the country. Said he had 972 text messages since his hire had been announced 4 days prior. I thought that was vintage Butch.

In most ways he was the same old Butch but I’ve always thought he was a smart man so I do think he’ll likely do good there. Of course he’s in the conference with Appy State and Coastal Carolina so it may not be in his first year. Time will tell. I was never fond of his personality but I'm glad I've reached the point where I can genuinely wish him well. jmo.
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The way he intentionally rode the bench on Saban’s coaching staff while simultaneously suckling Tennessee’s teat just for jollies means I have and never will have respect for the man. Most coaches have an actual role (O coordinator, line coach, etc). Butch had no role except to screw UT. That’s a reflection of low character imho.
 
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engineerVOL said:
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(In memory of @TN-POSSUM)
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IN MEMORY OF?!?!

I AIN'T DEAD!!! 🤣tenor-1.gif






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I was on the "Choose Joy" wagon during the coaching search, but now I'm all in on the "Choose Hope-ul" era. I believe we've finally got a good one and he's going to get us back to the top of the SEC. I'm also very thankful that JH and DW want to be here. We're winning at least 8 games this season and we'll be competitive with every team on the schedule. I'm more excited for TN FOOTBALL than I have been in years.

GBO
 
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knoxswim890 said:
The way he intentionally rode the bench on Saban’s coaching staff while simultaneously suckling Tennessee’s teat just for jollies means I have and never will have respect for the man. Most coaches have an actual role (O coordinator, line coach, etc). Butch had no role except to screw UT. That’s a reflection of low character imho.
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knoxswim890 said:
The way he intentionally rode the bench on Saban’s coaching staff while simultaneously suckling Tennessee’s teat just for jollies means I have and never will have respect for the man. Most coaches have an actual role (O coordinator, line coach, etc). Butch had no role except to screw UT. That’s a reflection of low character imho.
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He’s Kiffin’ing the hallways as we speak with Bama paraphernalia.

BJ: “And here I am in Miami hoisting the CFP Trophy with the team”

Recruit: “Why are you on all fours and Coach Saban standing on you”

BJ: “Moving on, hey look it’s me and Devonta Smith”
 
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