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SamRebel35 said:
Man, didn't seem like it. You're right though. Still would like to see us give up fewer offensive rebounds. Seems like that was a huge issue in the games we lost.
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I think its more noticeable during moments in the game when we are hurting. As fans we don't seem to realize when we start getting everything. We were probably getting smoked on the boards at the beginning of the second half, then turned around and dominated the glass rest of the game.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Don't care..he has built a really good program with kids that you can be proud of. This is not an old blue blood, we have pretty much always had a crap program my whole life except a few years when Mears was here and for a little while when Bruce was here. Rick Barnes is worth every penny IMO...especially now when the flagship sport has been nothing but embarrassment after embarrassment for the better part of 15 years.

He built this BB program from ashes after it had become a massive flaming embarrassment...that is a great job no matter what, there is no reasonable way you could call him overrated just for that alone.
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I'd rather get bounced in the first two rounds of the tournament, with one or two S16/E8 appearances and the occasional SEC title in a 10 year span with Barnes than wander the basketball desert striking out on "promising" new coaches who fail, get us in NCAA trouble, bone-headed players, and a carousel of coaches in hopes of striking gold.

I hope Barnes retires here, and as long as he's in orange I'm going to enjoy it.
 
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MwB said:
Yes......yes he is. Peyton changed how the NFL game is played and in my opinion would still be playing if not for the nerve damage. If you are insinuating that Brady is you are incorrect. However, Brady is the luckiest QB to ever play the game. I would argue Vinatieri is the most important player in the Patriots dynasty.
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And you typed this with a straight face? Lol
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Don't care..he has built a really good program with kids that you can be proud of. This is not an old blue blood, we have pretty much always had a crap program my whole life except a few years when Mears was here and for a little while when Bruce was here. Rick Barnes is worth every penny IMO...especially now when the flagship sport has been nothing but embarrassment after embarrassment for the better part of 15 years.

He built this BB program from ashes after it had become a massive flaming embarrassment...that is a great job no matter what, there is no reasonable way you could call him overrated just for that alone.
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The other thing is basketball is so much more difficult to "win it all". I both love/hate March Madness cause Barnes in a NBA best of series is likely making more Final Four appearances than he has but it's 1 and done. And you get limited time to prepare for the squad you have to face and sometimes you walk into the game not knowing anything about them.

Or a single player goes crazy from 3 and is hot and that's ball game. Or one of your key players tweaks a knee/ankle and he has to miss and you don't want to risk playing him because you will need him for the next round more.
 
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I think UT could do worse than Conklin. His tie to Heupel might be through Heupel's dad as Conklin played and broke into coaching in South Dakota.

As others have said, please give me a young up and coming DC over a retread.

If Conklin does well at an SEC school, he would seem to be in line for a D-1 job sooner rather than later if his record at Wofford is any indication.
 
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volfaninpa said:
I think UT could do worse than Conklin. His tie to Heupel might be through Heupel's dad as Conklin played and broke into coaching in South Dakota.

As others have said, please give me a young up and coming DC over a retread.

If Conklin does well at an SEC school, he would seem to be in line for a D-1 job sooner rather than later if his record at Wofford is any indication.
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Conk would be a good hire. Hard to believe he and Ansley were the secondary coaches on that terrible 2012 defense.
 
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Weird that Conklin & House basically replaced one another.

Conklin was at FIU in 2013 & 2014, House was at Pittsburgh same seasons. House ends up at FIU in 2015, while Conklin heads to Pittsburgh. FIU to Pittsburgh seems like a logical promotion, Pittsburgh also changed HC so I'm assuming House just wasn't retained (not out right fired).

Pittsburgh Stats (House Era)
2013: 27.2ppg (70th), 364.4 total yards given up
2014: 26.3ppg (59th), 359.8 total yards given up

Pittsburgh Stats (Conklin Era)
2015: 26.1ppg (57th), 363.5 total yards given up
2016: 35.2ppg (106th), 452.8 total yards given up
2017: 26.6ppg (65th), 398.8 total yards given up

Maybe Conklin is a BG check for House? Seems too much of a coincidence they were at two places nearly the same time frame without being somehow acquainted.
 
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volfaninpa said:
I think UT could do worse than Conklin. His tie to Heupel might be through Heupel's dad as Conklin played and broke into coaching in South Dakota.

As others have said, please give me a young up and coming DC over a retread.

If Conklin does well at an SEC school, he would seem to be in line for a D-1 job sooner rather than later if his record at Wofford is any indication.
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I'd rather have a DC who has proven something. When JH was hired, there was a lot said about him needing to hire a proven DC and letting him run the defense. Conklin doesn't fit that mold IMO.
 
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Bubbs said:
And you typed this with a straight face? Lol
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Yes I did, do you have a legitimate rebuttal?

Brady has 5 out of 15 seasons of QBR over 76.0
Manning has 6 out of 9 seasons with QBR over 76.0. I guess you also think Bruce Smith was a better pass rusher than Reggie White even though it took Smith 47 more games to have 2 more sacks than Reggie.
 
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Weezer said:
I'd rather have a DC who has proven something. When JH was hired, there was a lot said about him needing to hire a proven DC and letting him run the defense. Conklin doesn't fit that mold IMO.
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To be honest, I just don't give a **** about names anymore.

We've had some big name coordinators in the last few years of absolute ****** on-field performances.

2009: Chaney (29.3ppg) & Kiffin (22.2ppg)
2010: Chaney (27.0ppg) & Wilcox (25.1ppg)
2011: Chaney (20.3ppg) & Wilcox (22.6ppg)
2012: Chaney (36.2ppg) & Sunseri (35.7ppg)
2013: Bajakian (23.8ppg) & Jancek (29.0ppg)
2014: Bajakian (28.9ppg) & Jancek (24.2ppg)
2015: DeBord (35.2ppg) & Jancek (20.0ppg)
2016: DeBord (36.4ppg) & Shoop (28.8ppg)
2017: Scott (19.8ppg) & Shoop (29.1ppg)
2018: Helton (22.8ppg) & Sherrer (27.9ppg)
2019: Chaney (24.2ppg) & Ansley (21.7ppg)
2020: Chaney (21.5ppg) & Ansley (30.1ppg)


I type all that out to say I don't give a flying F*** who it is if the numbers are right, people hated DeBord and he's the best OC we've had in over a decade. Jancek is also the best DC we've had too.
 
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