Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[give_him 6]

This is starting to feel like when John Currie took the plane traveling around the country offering the HC job to anyone and everyone.

 

[engineerVOL]

Think he has a DC before we do?

I know a guy. He knows a guy.

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Just schedule the home/home vs UCF.

Let’s see who’s better in 2-3 years (spoiler: it will be us. Idek if Gus is at UCF for that long)

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Most coaches do because that's part of the pitch. There was no pitch needed when he hired Josh. I think they knew what they were looking for but not exactly who. Obviously I could be wrong, but are you also disagreeing with the vast majority of fans not being tuned into this search like us nuts on the recruiting forum?

 

[orangesoda]

Shannon/Martinez Co-DCs

Hell No!

 

[Deebowbear]

I think Shannon has been what DW has been waiting for UCF to hire their coach as somebody has said he likes him and hired him so that’s why we’ve seen garner, jancek and martinez mentioned

 

[Ace]

This should be a clear sign of what the perception is in this program.

I will go as far as to say Huepel was by far the best coach White could get. Everything else was angling for raises.

It’s on Huepel to dig us out of this now

Coaches are not angling for raises. We are approaching good coaches and their teams want to keep them. It helps their current team that we are a mess right now

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Let's also keep in mind Gus is 55 and has no need/want for big money contracts thanks to his time at Auburn.

He very well may have been waiting on a G5 job to come up in a warm retirement town, and UCF would fit that bill. He'll still make comfortable money there as well. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't leave that job and retires there.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Interesting perspective, in most of what you said I have a similar view of Heupel. If anything needs to be fixed at UCF, would that not reflect on Heupel?

The difference between them is that at least Heupel's side of the ball was good, which is why you can reasonably believe he is a good defensive staff away from the complete package.

Gus had a great defense and a terrible offense. Gus is also an OC who gave the keys to the defense completely to Kevin Steele. So where does that leave you?

The people who like Gus have never bothered to look past his HC record. His offense was out dated by 2016, he never adjusted, and Kevin Steele signed his checks for 3 seasons by backpacking him.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Maybe we should pull a reverse Ted Lasso and hire a soccer coach for our DC.

Soccer is typically a low scoring game, therefore the coaches must be great at defensive schemes...right?

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Coaches are not angling for raises. We are approaching good coaches and their teams want to keep them. It helps their current team that we are a mess right now

I think it at least speaks to the quality of coaches we have seemingly pursued and position coaches at that, not current coordinators. When teams put up big money to keep position coaches you know they are viewed as quality and crucial to success.

 

[Newman]

Bill B hiring those TN boys

 

[BruinVol]

I’d be fine with RS as well

 

[mthomp88]

Shannon/Martinez Co-DCs

End me

 

[MoCo_Vol]

The difference between them is that at least Heupel's side of the ball was good, which is why you can reasonably believe he is a good defensive staff away from the complete package.

Gus had a great defense and a terrible offense. Gus is also an OC who gave the keys to the defense completely to Kevin Steele. So where does that leave you?

The people who like Gus have never bothered to look past his HC record. His offense was out dated by 2016, he never adjusted, and Kevin Steele signed his checks for 3 seasons by backpacking him.

2017: 33.9ppg (27th ranked)
2018: 30.9ppg (48th ranked)
2019: 33.2ppg (28th ranked)
2020: 25.1ppg (89th ranked)

Big drop off in COVID season, most the SEC had similar dips. You can just not like Gus' offense, and I think against the SEC's top tier teams it is outdated. But he's never had a terrible offense, he's had terrible games though. As far as scoring points though and winning games Gus is anything but average/terrible.

He's in that Mark Richt spot now and for most of the SEC that's not good enough.

 

[DedicatedVol]

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Has this hire taken a month, yet?

Getting dang close.

 

[Ace]

Hire slow, fire fast

 

[Deebowbear]

I’d be fine with RS as well

Soon as gus gets hired he will released from ucf

 

[Newman]

Man they about to hire a dc

 

[you]

Ex-Bengals CB Adam 'Pacman' Jones arrested, charged with assault

I wonder if Pacman is interested in coaching. I think he'd be a good DB/ST coach. Perhaps we should give him a look. I feel he'd be a good recruiter.

 

[pierce60]

Getting dang close.

Hahaha he’s got 12 days until it’s a month. That’s not that close.

 

[amavol2]

GUS MALZAHN LOST TO JEREMY PRUITT AND JG!!!

Plus, every QB under him gets worse. Every QB under Heupel gets better. They did not upgrade. We'll see what happens when Gus doesn't have Steele and Garner to cover for him. Of course, he's also in an easier conference so his offense may still work there. He isn't a bad coach, but they didn't upgrade imo

One game doesn’t define a career.
Gus beat Nick several times, does that make him a better coach?

 

[tssumners]

 

[Kingston Vol]

Glad that's over!