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Total Transfers/ by Position/ Destination:

QB
1. Jarrett Guarantano - Washington St.
2. JT Shrout - Colorado

RB
3. Eric Gray - Oklahoma
4. Ty Chandler - UNC

WR
5. Brandon Johnson - UCF

TE
6. Sean Brown - ?
7. Jordan Allen - Weber St.
8. Jackson Lowe - Jacksonville St

OL
9. Wayne Morris - Oklahoma
10. Jahmir Johnson - Texas A & M

DL
11. Savion Williams - Florida A & M
12. John Mincey - Arkansas St.


LB
13. Deandre Johnson - Miami
14. JJ Petersen - ?
15. Henry To’o To’o - ?
16. Quavaris Crouch - Michigan St.


DB
17. Keyshawn Lawrence - Oklahoma
18. Baylen Buchanan - Louisiana Tech

Kicker
19. Brent Cimaglia - Georgia Tech

Dismissed:
20. Kivon Bennett
21. Issac Washington
22. Martavius French
23. Emmitt Gooden( could have used the extra year)

Possibly not on the team in the fall:
24. Darel Middleton
25. Aubrey Solomon
26. Shawn Shamburger
27. Aaron Beasley
28. Brian Maurer

Asked out of NLI:
29. Dylan Brooks - Auburn
30. Cody Brown - Miami
31. Katron Evans - ?
32. Jamarious Gooch - Auburn
Crushing it
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Certainly in the discussion. Either way, it's a bad group to be in.

I personally think I am being fairer to Heupel than others are given what I think about this roster. If he wins anything over 4 games, I will consider it a job well done. I think he has inherited just about the (realistic) worst case scenario given how he wants to run this team.

My fear is people expecting 6-7 wins will start killing him by November.
We will cover 6 wins.

GBO
 
Total Transfers/ by Position/ Destination:

QB
1. Jarrett Guarantano - Washington St.
2. JT Shrout - Colorado

RB
3. Eric Gray - Oklahoma
4. Ty Chandler - UNC

WR
5. Brandon Johnson - UCF

TE
6. Sean Brown - ?
7. Jordan Allen - Weber St.
8. Jackson Lowe - Jacksonville St

OL
9. Wayne Morris - Oklahoma
10. Jahmir Johnson - Texas A & M

DL
11. Savion Williams - Florida A & M
12. John Mincey - Arkansas St.


LB
13. Deandre Johnson - Miami
14. JJ Petersen - ?
15. Henry To’o To’o - ?
16. Quavaris Crouch - Michigan St.


DB
17. Keyshawn Lawrence - Oklahoma
18. Baylen Buchanan - Louisiana Tech

Kicker
19. Brent Cimaglia - Georgia Tech

Dismissed:
20. Kivon Bennett
21. Issac Washington
22. Martavius French
23. Emmitt Gooden( could have used the extra year)

Possibly not on the team in the fall:
24. Darel Middleton
25. Aubrey Solomon
26. Shawn Shamburger
27. Aaron Beasley
28. Brian Maurer

Asked out of NLI:
29. Dylan Brooks - Auburn
30. Cody Brown - Miami
31. Katron Evans - ?
32. Jamarious Gooch - Auburn
that's crazy. literally our entire defensive 2 deep.
 
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Total Transfers/ by Position/ Destination:

QB
1. Jarrett Guarantano - Washington St.
2. JT Shrout - Colorado

RB
3. Eric Gray - Oklahoma
4. Ty Chandler - UNC

WR
5. Brandon Johnson - UCF

TE
6. Sean Brown - ?
7. Jordan Allen - Weber St.
8. Jackson Lowe - Jacksonville St

OL
9. Wayne Morris - Oklahoma
10. Jahmir Johnson - Texas A & M

DL
11. Savion Williams - Florida A & M
12. John Mincey - Arkansas St.


LB
13. Deandre Johnson - Miami
14. JJ Petersen - ?
15. Henry To’o To’o - ?
16. Quavaris Crouch - Michigan St.


DB
17. Keyshawn Lawrence - Oklahoma
18. Baylen Buchanan - Louisiana Tech

Kicker
19. Brent Cimaglia - Georgia Tech

Dismissed:
20. Kivon Bennett
21. Issac Washington
22. Martavius French
23. Emmitt Gooden( could have used the extra year)

Possibly not on the team in the fall:
24. Darel Middleton
25. Aubrey Solomon
26. Shawn Shamburger
27. Aaron Beasley
28. Brian Maurer

Asked out of NLI:
29. Dylan Brooks - Auburn
30. Cody Brown - Miami
31. Katron Evans - ?
32. Jamarious Gooch - Auburn
Oh my god... That's more than I realized. Look at all the DL and LB! Bad bad bad
 
I long for the days of monsters again on the dl. I remember attending a game years ago when Haynesworth and Henderson were anchoring that line. It was Friday night and we were staying at the same hotel as the team and we're in the lobby as the players are coming off the elevator. Hayneswoth and Henderson walked right up in front of me and my 5'10 1/2 inch self could not believe or get over the size of those two behemoths.
 
I have a feeling the next two years will be somewhat similar to Butch's first two. Pretty high offensive production, able to score on teams far better and more experienced than us, but some frustrating defensive play and still losing those bigger "over the hump" games.

But I'll take that. Having a great offense means you're never truly out of a game. Especially if the defense can force the other team to make some sloppy mistakes.
 
Posted this last year in the Pub, but I'm copying and pasting it here because it was 30 years ago today:


My wife and I had our first date on Cinco de Mayo, 2930 years ago. Went to a K-Jays game at old Bill Meyer Stadium.

Crowd was light that evening and we picked a spot behind home plate a good ways up the stands to have a little space to ourselves. I'd bought a program and they called out numbers throughout the game to win prizes if the numbers in your program matched. So I happened to get a match and the prize was the opportunity to go down on the field for three attempts to throw a baseball through a hole in a big board — get one in, win a free pizza; two in gets a pizza party; three in and everyone in the stadium gets a free pizza.

I remember thinking, I played baseball all my life, wasn't that far removed from it back then, it was a good opportunity to impress my new date by showing out a hero and getting everybody free pizza.

So the time comes, I go down to the field, they have my name up on the scoreboard and the crowd's behind me. The hole in the board was about the size of a trash can lid and the distance on the first toss was a bit less than pitcher's distance , maybe 50 feet. No problemo. Got my cocky smile on, throw the first ball and Bonk! it hits the board.

I lose the crowd instantly — they just lost their damn pizzas and they were enjoying letting me know about it. I could not believe I'd missed that easy throw and now it's getting in my head. The K-Jays girl moves me a good bit closer for my second throw. I can still save this, get a pizza party... Bonk!

Now I'm sweating, the crowd is surprisingly loud with their razzing and I'm feeling my date's eyes rolling all the way down there. The girl moves me up again and I could have taken three giant steps and dropped the ball through the hole. On an average day I could drop kick the damn ball through there from this distance without a second thought. But this time I'm throwing.

Bonk!

Could. Not. Believe it.

The crowd is loud and absolutely loving it; I must have had some swagger showing when I first walked out there. The K-Jays girl hands me the ball as a souvenir and now I have to make the long walk of shame back to my date, getting verbally abused the whole way. All I can do is grin and bear it.

About halfway through the trek, some little boy, maybe eight years old, steps out into the aisle in front of me and I stop. He looks up at me and says graciously, "I think you did real good." What a sweet and thoughtful gesture. I wanted to punch that sweet little boy right in the face. I didn't need some brat's pity to seal the deal on my humiliation. But I just smiled and said thanks and kept going.

Finally, I got to our section and there she was, way up there waiting on me, doing a great job of looking like ehhh, what the hell, who cares. Despite all the abuse I had just gotten, that walk up the stairs was the longest and most shameful of it all. But she was awesome and we had a good laugh. And four years later she married me.

And I still have that damned baseball.
Cool story bro, and I'm serious.
 
I have a feeling the next two years will be somewhat similar to Butch's first two. Pretty high offensive production, able to score on teams far better and more experienced than us, but some frustrating defensive play and still losing those bigger "over the hump" games.

But I'll take that. Having a great offense means you're never truly out of a game. Especially if the defense can force the other team to make some sloppy mistakes.

I am not going to hold Heupal to a number of must-win games because he is truly coming into a tough spot. That said, there are two differences between this year and Butch's first year:
1. The roster is better. It's not great, but it's better than 2013.
2. The schedule is favorable. Butch went 5-7 playing at Oregon and playing 6 other top 20 teams at the time of the games (7 total!). Granted, UF went on to a have a terrible season. But, Mizzou was top 10, and we got a top 10 Auburn team. That was Butch's best coaching job. I said later that if the Oregon game was substituted for another buy game that Butch would have made 4 straight bowls.

We get Pitt, who is beatable, and Vandy and USC, who will be worse than us. Heupal and staff can win 6 games.
 
Total Transfers/ by Position/ Destination:

QB
1. Jarrett Guarantano - Washington St.
2. JT Shrout - Colorado

RB
3. Eric Gray - Oklahoma
4. Ty Chandler - UNC

WR
5. Brandon Johnson - UCF

TE
6. Sean Brown - ?
7. Jordan Allen - Weber St.
8. Jackson Lowe - Jacksonville St

OL
9. Wayne Morris - Oklahoma
10. Jahmir Johnson - Texas A & M

DL
11. Savion Williams - Florida A & M
12. John Mincey - Arkansas St.


LB
13. Deandre Johnson - Miami
14. JJ Petersen - ?
15. Henry To’o To’o - ?
16. Quavaris Crouch - Michigan St.


DB
17. Keyshawn Lawrence - Oklahoma
18. Baylen Buchanan - Louisiana Tech

Kicker
19. Brent Cimaglia - Georgia Tech

Dismissed:
20. Kivon Bennett
21. Issac Washington
22. Martavius French
23. Emmitt Gooden( could have used the extra year)

Possibly not on the team in the fall:
24. Darel Middleton
25. Aubrey Solomon
26. Shawn Shamburger
27. Aaron Beasley
28. Brian Maurer

Asked out of NLI:
29. Dylan Brooks - Auburn
30. Cody Brown - Miami
31. Katron Evans - ?
32. Jamarious Gooch - Auburn

What is going on with Solomon?
 
I have a feeling the next two years will be somewhat similar to Butch's first two. Pretty high offensive production, able to score on teams far better and more experienced than us, but some frustrating defensive play and still losing those bigger "over the hump" games.

But I'll take that. Having a great offense means you're never truly out of a game. Especially if the defense can force the other team to make some sloppy mistakes.
Cool thing is Hype has a career average about 9 ppg higher than Butch did before he came here. And that's with much more of it vs P5 teams (well, Butch had zero tbf).

Butch averaged 23.8 ppg in 2013 and 28.9 in 2014. I could see Hype putting up ~28.9 in Y1 and 33+ in Y2. Now, does he turn the defense around as quickly as Butch? Certainly possible, but that's the big test. Would be grrreat if a Barnett/Sutton/JRM combo popped up by next year like it did for Butch.
 
Total Transfers/ by Position/ Destination:

QB
1. Jarrett Guarantano - Washington St.
2. JT Shrout - Colorado

RB
3. Eric Gray - Oklahoma
4. Ty Chandler - UNC

WR
5. Brandon Johnson - UCF

TE
6. Sean Brown - ?
7. Jordan Allen - Weber St.
8. Jackson Lowe - Jacksonville St

OL
9. Wayne Morris - Oklahoma
10. Jahmir Johnson - Texas A & M

DL
11. Savion Williams - Florida A & M
12. John Mincey - Arkansas St.


LB
13. Deandre Johnson - Miami
14. JJ Petersen - ?
15. Henry To’o To’o - ?
16. Quavaris Crouch - Michigan St.


DB
17. Keyshawn Lawrence - Oklahoma
18. Baylen Buchanan - Louisiana Tech

Kicker
19. Brent Cimaglia - Georgia Tech

Dismissed:
20. Kivon Bennett
21. Issac Washington
22. Martavius French
23. Emmitt Gooden( could have used the extra year)

Possibly not on the team in the fall:
24. Darel Middleton
25. Aubrey Solomon
26. Shawn Shamburger
27. Aaron Beasley
28. Brian Maurer

Asked out of NLI:
29. Dylan Brooks - Auburn
30. Cody Brown - Miami
31. Katron Evans - ?
32. Jamarious Gooch - Auburn
J'Marion Gooch is at Mizzou. I would also put Wideman in the probably not on the team category.
 
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I have a feeling the next two years will be somewhat similar to Butch's first two. Pretty high offensive production, able to score on teams far better and more experienced than us, but some frustrating defensive play and still losing those bigger "over the hump" games.

But I'll take that. Having a great offense means you're never truly out of a game. Especially if the defense can force the other team to make some sloppy mistakes.
I'm hoping for a better first year from Heup than Pruitt and Butch had. Defense will 100% struggle. Could end up being an alright defense, especially if we retain Middleton, Solomon and Willis.

6-6 or more should be the goal.

I kinda think if Heup is gonna be the guy we gotta at least get to a bowl game. I dont think the cupboard is as bare as some think and our schedule is way softer than usual.

Bowling Green, Tenn Tech, South Alabama and Vandy are all pretty awful. JG and Pruitt don't even lose to them. That's 4 wins. You could put USCjr in that group too really. KY, Mizzou, Ole Miss are all beatable.
 
I long for the days of monsters again on the dl. I remember attending a game years ago when Haynesworth and Henderson were anchoring that line. It was Friday night and we were staying at the same hotel as the team and we're in the lobby as the players are coming off the elevator. Hayneswoth and Henderson walked right up in front of me and my 5'10 1/2 inch self could not believe or get over the size of those two behemoths.
At 5'almost2"...I can imagine.
 
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