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I guess. His Mizzou offenses had inflated stats because they ran up the score on bad teams.

I like Heup but I think he’s a young head coach in a bad position. He’s gonna need time
At least he was able to run up the score on somebody...plus you forget the major talent disparity Mizzou had when facing the better teams.
 
Very fair point. I just don’t know if we’re gonna put up crazy point totals against good teams
I know what is going to happen..We are not going to put up crazy point totals against really good teams with good defenses most of the time..because they are really good teams, and we are not right now.

I would like to see what he can do with top 10-15 talent at most offensive positions though.

I for one am absolutely sick of struggling to score on crap teams..bring on the blowouts of those types, and then we can worry about leveling the playing field on the best.
 
They went to a Fiesta Bowl before Frost and beat a great Baylor team.

UCF is on a different level than FAU. We'll get to see what Heupel and Kiffin can do against each other on more even footing in a few months.
Seeing as Kiff has a one year head start..it is not going to be on level footing, and the Kiff slurpers on here will be unbearable.

With the state of our defense, and our offense having to learn to go complete 180 from what they did before, and what they were recruited to do...I give Kiff a big edge in that game.
 
The coach before Frost (George O'Leary) had 4 10-win seasons including a 12-1 season in 2013. The coach before Kiffin went 9-27. I don't agree that Kiffin is a far superior play-caller than Heupel, but UCF is a far better program than FAU so head-to-head results at those two schools are worth little imo.
What was O'Leary's record the two years before Frost?
 
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Pruitt f'n sucked at his job..period. I pulled for him as hard as anybody, but this last year was an absolutely pathetic coaching job all the way around.

every coach sucked this past year not named Nick Saban. Check the SEC standings as well as other conferences. Lack of time and covid phucked up a lot of coaching and teaching time. I’m not sure why only UT fans can’t see this as a fact.
 
Yeah, this is concerning.

Random "cool story, bro," but we were at Kiawah this past week and on the way back onto the island from a short trip we stopped to get ice. My dad was wearing Tennessee colors and the cashier said, "Tennessee! I'm UCF! You stole our AD!" My dad goes, "Yeah, and your coach!" The cashier responded, "You can have him."

We'll see. I think we might be fun to watch, but I'm not booking any tickets for Atlanta anytime soon.
Yeah...typical dumbass fan that doesn't take into account the Covid issues UCF had this year. Frost went undefeated, nothing Heupel ever did after that was going to make them happy.
 
every coach sucked this past year not named Nick Saban. Check the SEC standings as well as other conferences. Lack of time and covid phucked up a lot of coaching and teaching time. I’m not sure why only UT fans can’t see this as a fact.
Pruitt is a suckass coach...you are just pissed off right now cause your gravy bowl got knocked over.
 
Anyone that thought Pruitt was anything but a total failure at every aspect of coaching loses any credibility with me when it comes to judging coaches. The guy couldn't manage, he couldn't coach, and he couldn't even cheat, although I don't blame him for the cheating part because that's the norm at his previous stops. At Bama, GA, and FSU is the norm, and out in the open. Unfortunately everyone can't get away with it. There are definitely two sets of rules.

As to his coaching, his past success is all smoke and mirrors. He's really accomplished nothing. He's never been a "guru". He will never be a "guru". His reputation was built on players he purchased.

lmao well according to you no coach is successful then because anyone who win a NC buys players. So save that bs logic.
 

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Pruitt is a suckass coach...you are just pissed off right now cause your gravy bowl got knocked over.

do you not realize I dgaf about what happens and who’s the coach here. That doesn’t stop us from having the top players in the state and they go to more than just UT. If any of you knew simple logic you’d sthu because we don’t stop because of a coach or 1 said name. We have kids at every P5 conference and will continue to do so. We get the biggest laughs at UT fans saying dumb shyt like this because yawl act like because Pruitt leaves UT our program shuts down. No not so check out our new facility in Murfreesboro check out or players in Tx, New Orleans, and Fla. we now have affiliate programs in Michigan, Ohio, and so on. Relax big guy we dgaf about one particular coach because we are a great organization in which all the recruiting sites and schools call on. Guess why, because they see Jacob Hood, they see us rescue kids from Tx like the Wr at UGA who cm to Tennessee and dominated, and so on. Try again we just had 3 guys drafter on top of the previous 13 pros. I know I know I know damn them boys have a well oiled machine. Btw check out our Big Man Challenge in Cowboys stadium next month with The Boss Jerry Jones putting money behind us lmao damn life is good.
 
Yeah, this is concerning.

Random "cool story, bro," but we were at Kiawah this past week and on the way back onto the island from a short trip we stopped to get ice. My dad was wearing Tennessee colors and the cashier said, "Tennessee! I'm UCF! You stole our AD!" My dad goes, "Yeah, and your coach!" The cashier responded, "You can have him."

We'll see. I think we might be fun to watch, but I'm not booking any tickets for Atlanta anytime soon.

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do you not realize I dgaf about what happens and who’s the coach here. That doesn’t stop us from having the top players in the state and they go to more than just UT. If any of you knew simple logic you’d sthu because we don’t stop because of a coach or 1 said name. We have kids at every P5 conference and will continue to do so. We get the biggest laughs at UT fans saying dumb shyt like this because yawl act like because Pruitt leaves UT our program shuts down. No not so check out our new facility in Murfreesboro check out or players in Tx, New Orleans, and Fla. we now have affiliate programs in Michigan, Ohio, and so on. Relax big guy we dgaf about one particular coach because we are a great organization in which all the recruiting sites and schools call on. Guess why, because they see Jacob Hood, they see us rescue kids from Tx like the Wr at UGA who cm to Tennessee and dominated, and so on. Try again we just had 3 guys drafter on top of the previous 13 pros. I know I know I know damn them boys have a well oiled machine. Btw check out our Big Man Challenge in Cowboys stadium next month with The Boss Jerry Jones putting money behind us lmao damn life is good.
Blah blah blah...Pruitt f'n sucks. I hate "handlers"
 
Yeah, this is concerning.

Random "cool story, bro," but we were at Kiawah this past week and on the way back onto the island from a short trip we stopped to get ice. My dad was wearing Tennessee colors and the cashier said, "Tennessee! I'm UCF! You stole our AD!" My dad goes, "Yeah, and your coach!" The cashier responded, "You can have him."

We'll see. I think we might be fun to watch, but I'm not booking any tickets for Atlanta anytime soon.
UCF fans know nothing about football.. they’ll be begging for their coach back in a year or two
 
do you not realize I dgaf about what happens and who’s the coach here. That doesn’t stop us from having the top players in the state and they go to more than just UT. If any of you knew simple logic you’d sthu because we don’t stop because of a coach or 1 said name. We have kids at every P5 conference and will continue to do so. We get the biggest laughs at UT fans saying dumb shyt like this because yawl act like because Pruitt leaves UT our program shuts down. No not so check out our new facility in Murfreesboro check out or players in Tx, New Orleans, and Fla. we now have affiliate programs in Michigan, Ohio, and so on. Relax big guy we dgaf about one particular coach because we are a great organization in which all the recruiting sites and schools call on. Guess why, because they see Jacob Hood, they see us rescue kids from Tx like the Wr at UGA who cm to Tennessee and dominated, and so on. Try again we just had 3 guys drafter on top of the previous 13 pros. I know I know I know damn them boys have a well oiled machine. Btw check out our Big Man Challenge in Cowboys stadium next month with The Boss Jerry Jones putting money behind us lmao damn life is good.
Not one person gives a damn about your buddies business or about your hair salon. You’ve got the most **** delivery on the things you are trying to articulate to us and that’s the biggest reason you sound like a tool 99% of the time.

If you keep saying you dgaf about what happens then log off and move on. Because I can assure you we definitely won’t miss your chest thumping. Congrats on being the designated trash guy and hair stylist at the camps.
 
do you not realize I dgaf about what happens and who’s the coach here. That doesn’t stop us from having the top players in the state and they go to more than just UT. If any of you knew simple logic you’d sthu because we don’t stop because of a coach or 1 said name. We have kids at every P5 conference and will continue to do so. We get the biggest laughs at UT fans saying dumb shyt like this because yawl act like because Pruitt leaves UT our program shuts down. No not so check out our new facility in Murfreesboro check out or players in Tx, New Orleans, and Fla. we now have affiliate programs in Michigan, Ohio, and so on. Relax big guy we dgaf about one particular coach because we are a great organization in which all the recruiting sites and schools call on. Guess why, because they see Jacob Hood, they see us rescue kids from Tx like the Wr at UGA who cm to Tennessee and dominated, and so on. Try again we just had 3 guys drafter on top of the previous 13 pros. I know I know I know damn them boys have a well oiled machine. Btw check out our Big Man Challenge in Cowboys stadium next month with The Boss Jerry Jones putting money behind us lmao damn life is good.

Tennessee fans are my brothers and sisters.

There's no reason to laugh at them, unless you're a rival.
 
I'm now curious - if a UCF fan is upset we stole their AD and their AD hired the football HC they don't care for - why does the UCF fan still like the now former AD? It's not like UCF is a household name in all sports.

Sounds like a what have you do for me lately type fan. We know those types here.
Fans are very irrational...... previous coach was very popular and left after an undefeated season.... no way the guy that replaced him would measure up.
 
Damn..you are thick headed..goodbye. I never saw Jordan flop around like a f'n fish on a boat deck...ever. LeBron is a bum...
Dennis Rodman is the only one I can think of who flopped to get calls be he never pretended to be injured like a bitch. That all princess James.
 
Mizzou is a train wreck, South Carolina sucks, we will wax Kentucky especially if we have decent QB play. Those are 3 wins right there, then we definitely beat Vanderbilt and the 3 cupcakes. That right there is 7 wins.

I think our ceiling is 8 regular season and our floor is 7 regular season.

This ^ for the most part. Just a game different on each side from my perspective on floor and ceiling.

Floor of 6 if injuries hit. Ceiling of 9 if it all falls into place. 7-8 wins is my expectation. We've got some good first team SEC type players. Need depth for the uptempo system as it also puts the D on the field for more snaps. How that develops and any serious injuries sustained will determine the final result IMO.
 
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As the great Bobby Bowden said as it pertains to coaching, it's 95% the Jommys and Joes the other 5% is coaching. UT hasn't had Jimmys and Joes on an elite level in a long time my friend. The players hv to be in place for any coach to win and look to part. I'm sick of Pruitt this and Pruitt that. If a coach doesn't hv guys he ain't winning any where, and thus why the struggle was real. See a lot of yawl hv tunnel vision but when you tk over a team with no trench monsters it's always going to be hard to win whether it's Tennessee State or University of Tennessee. Lying Lyle left a mess and as I had said all along it was going to take the full 5 years to get to a place of readiness from a roster perspective. Even with Heupel to win he'll need 3-4 years. He lost studs in the shuffle and guys have to be replaced and then stockpiled. Then he lost that last year class with the kids asking out that were next level and was behind the 8ball for this class.
Appreciate all the insight on our beloved Vols. Your group is obviously well connected and have the inside view on things, and appreciate you sharing your unfiltered views and opinions on the board.

Keep them coming, good or bad, hopefully there’s better news on the horizon. Of course would love to hear more dirt on other SEC teams than ours!
 
every coach sucked this past year not named Nick Saban. Check the SEC standings as well as other conferences. Lack of time and covid phucked up a lot of coaching and teaching time. I’m not sure why only UT fans can’t see this as a fact.
If Pruitt wouldn’t have been a stubborn jackass and played ANY Qb other than JG then he could have LITERALLY went 1-9 and fans would’ve been able to swallow it. He made his own bed. He sucked. And I hope Heupel and co. (unwittingly) pay all the recruits top dollar. I want to win at all costs.
 
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