Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Catbone]

Is Beamer pushing really hard for commitments like used car salesman hard? Do we think they will stick through the season?

Must be nice not worrying about sanctions.. we are going to drag this out forever

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

 

[Devo182]

Is Beamer pushing really hard for commitments like used car salesman hard? Do we think they will stick through the season?

Don't care about USCjr. Never have, never will. Not a concern...plus they turrible right now with a laughable HC hire. Andy level.

 

[Devo182]

My biggest question with NIL. What will prevent businesses whose owners are fans of certain universities from offering deals to good players from other schools in exchange for the player's commitment to transfer to said owner's school of choice?

Seems that is prohibited - a deal based on a current SA going to another school.

And I might have been wrong before in my interpretation, 247 is saying this doesn't apply to non-SAs/recruits.

Patrick Brown posted this niblet:

""NIL compensation contingent upon enrollment at a particular school" is prohibited by the NCAA's interim NIL policy, which applies only to current college athletes and not recruits. NIL trickling down to the high school level is a possibility down the road, though. Depends on how the laws eventually play out.""

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Don't care about USCjr. Never have, never will. Not a concern...plus they turrible right now with a laughable HC hire. Andy level.

Couldn't even hang on to Bobo as OC. Settled for Shatterfield.

 

[Catbone]

LOL

 

[Ten_Titans]

My biggest question with NIL. What will prevent businesses whose owners are fans of certain universities from offering deals to good players from other schools in exchange for the player's commitment to transfer to said owner's school of choice?

Answer: The deals that the player already has with the school they are at currently.

For top talent, this is just going to be a thinly veiled way for fans, boosters, and "family members of coaches" to pay players to play for them.

CFB as we know it is dead. That's the bad news. Good news is that UT can pay players on par with any school in the country.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

You joke, but think about how much money women's athletes would get for bikini calendars.

Way the hell more than they'd get for an autograph.

I’m not joking I’m being dead serious.

 

[Ten_Titans]

You joke, but think about how much money women's athletes would get for bikini calendars.

Way the hell more than they'd get for an autograph.

Bikini calanders don't exist any more.

There is this cool site called OnlyFans that serves a similar purpose, and I'm sure many female athletes are filling out the forms as we speak.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Seems that is prohibited - a deal based on a current SA going to another school.

And I might have been wrong before in my interpretation, 247 is saying this doesn't apply to non-SAs/recruits.

Patrick Brown posted this niblet:

""NIL compensation contingent upon enrollment at a particular school" is prohibited by the NCAA's interim NIL policy, which applies only to current college athletes and not recruits. NIL trickling down to the high school level is a possibility down the road, though. Depends on how the laws eventually play out.""

. Good luck with that NCAA

NCAA couldn't even successfully track paper trails before. Now they are going to police... Not payments... But promises of payment?

Yeah. No.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Answer: The deals that the player already has with the school they are at currently.

For top talent, this is just going to be a thinly veiled way for fans, boosters, and "family members of coaches" to pay players to play for them.

CFB as we know it is dead. That's the bad news. Good news is that UT can pay players on par with any school in the country.

Great. An above board bidding war. Just what college football needs.

 

[Devo182]

Answer: The deals that the player already has with the school they are at currently.

For top talent, this is just going to be a thinly veiled way for fans, boosters, and "family members of coaches" to pay players to play for them.

CFB as we know it is dead. That's the bad news. Good news is that UT can pay players on par with any school in the country.

CFB as I know it is watching a bunch of orange P151 clad players running out every Saturday and playing football. All this behind the scenes stuff won't change that any more than the forward pass, integration, the BCS, the playoffs, transfers, or stipends did. It's still Vols playing in the Fall. All I care about.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Great. A bidding war. Just what college football needs.

We'll see. I'm not optimistic, but one could make the case there was already a bidding war. It's just going to be out in the open now.

I don't like the idea of CFB being dominated by the top 5 teams with the most money. But frankly, it isn't as if the competitive landscape is all that even as it is anyway. It's quite possible this will change nothing as far as parity in CFB goes.

 

[Devo182]

. Good luck with that NCAA

NCAA couldn't even successfully track paper trails before. Now they are going to police... Not payments... But promises of payment?

Yeah. No.

They aren't from their latest words. They're sort of leaving a lot of it up to the universities for now. Until congress and the NCAA can work out a uniform policy, at least.

Not sure what other solution there is. Universities all "self-legislating" or the NCAA? Unless we just want a free-for-all, which the NCAA has been fighting against all this time. Well here we are. I still think most universities desire uniform policies and some regulation. Everyone is skeptical of the Bamas and OSUs...as well the SEC as a whole.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

We'll see. I'm not optimistic, but one could make the case there was already a bidding war. It's just going to be out in the open now.

I don't like the idea of CFB being dominated by the top 5 teams with the most money. But frankly, it isn't as if the competitive landscape is all that even as it is anyway. It's quite possible this will change nothing as far as parity in CFB goes.

Exactly. It's now under a veil of legality.

 

[Ten_Titans]

CFB as I know it is watching a bunch of orange P151 clad players running out every Saturday and playing football. All this behind the scenes stuff won't change that any more than the forward pass, integration, the BCS, the playoffs, transfers, or stipends did. It's still Vols playing in the Fall. All I care about.

You watch the NFL? I think CFB officially becoming minor league professional football is going to change the product significantly. Could be wrong though.

 

[m1al]

Must be nice not worrying about sanctions.. we are going to drag this out forever

No shortage of kindling for your fires then...

Oh wait, I forgot, you don't need any...

 

[731Vol]

I have no idea why this investigation is dragging on this long. Only thought may be that now this NIL rule passed, the NCAA will not be able to severely punish schools that were caught paying players in McDonalds bags. Either way, it needs to wrap up today.

 

[Volsdeep4]

Men are men and women are women. End of story.

Are you going to refer to that guy as Korean too?

I’m so glad you get to choose whatever a person wants to be called or what they want to do with their body. What gives you the right? If someone wants to do something with their body, are you so high and mighty to be rude and disrespectful to that person? Hypocrite.

 

[peaygolf]

A pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel on his head. The bartender asks, “Why do you have a paper towel on your head?”



The pirate says, “ARRRRRGH, I got bounty on me head!”

 

[LA Vol]

The NCAA is effectively sidestepping regulation. SAs are free to structure their own deals with those parties willing to pay, and as long as their deals meet state law and school policy, which purportedly complies with the NCAA's handful of vague guidelines, they're good. It's a business contract, and people will work the loopholes.

 

[peaygolf]

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[Glitch]

LOM be like....

 

[SweetasSoda]

Yep, college sports just changed bigtime. It's going to be impossible to regulate everything, and not everyone is going to play by a vague set of rules. Schools like UT that have been proactive in helping athletes structure and profit from deals can use that to their advantage. Other schools will be at a disadvantage unless they become more lenient in what they allow SAs to do.

The nature of some of these deals make focus a legit concern.

"in what they allow SAs to do".... at first I read that as SAS and wondered what I had to do with anything! Anyway, can you explain a little what Tennessee did to give them an advantage in helping SAs?

 

[Glitch]

Is Beamer pushing really hard for commitments like used car salesman hard? Do we think they will stick through the season?

When Butch was here, we had all kinds of commitments and then decommitments. Maybe what is going on with Scar?