Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[ACvol3]

Didn’t kiffin lose to Arkansas last year?

 

[ob79]

I'd personally have Kiffin and Leach above Orgeron, Stoops, and Harsin. I know Orgeron has a natty but so does Gene Chizik.

You can't ignore results, and Ed O's gotta ring as a head coach.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

OK but what do those guys have? Especially Kiffin. It isn't like they are newcomers to head coaching jobs.

My opinion is based off of if I were making the hire. Leach/Kiffin > Orgeron, Stoops, Harsin.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

You can't ignore results, and Ed O's gotta ring as a head coach.

Would you hire him instead of Kiffin or Leach?

 

[drvenner]

Listen man our tuck identifies as a taco and quite frankly we support that decision. The wife’s subaru thinks it’s a banana just gotta roll with the punches brother

Rolling every day, LOL.

 

[drvenner]

Do you agree?

Kiffin should be 15 behind whatever interim coach gets named by some team this year.

 

[#1GatorHater]

Go wish Gus a happy birthday!

 

[drvenner]

Would you hire him instead of Kiffin or Leach?

I would hire you before I would hire Kiffin.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Do you agree?

Not at all. Let's start with Kirby. Kirby is not a good coach. He is an elite recruiter. Mullen is a far better coach than him. I'm putting Mullen at 3, and for recruiting and the fact that he's been in the playoff, tho he isn't a good coach, I'll drop Kirby to 4.

Orgeron has a championship, but he's also a horrible coach. He should not be that high. He's getting credit though for the championship here which I understand, but everyone knows that was Aranda and Brady. I wouldn't have him at 5th. Stoops is a good coach, what he's done at UK is impressive. But let's be honest, he's at his ceiling there. He isn't going to do anything more than what he has done. He's an 8 game winner which, at KY is impressive I guess. but I think there's a reason why no big schools have come after him. He isn't as good of a coach as Kiffin for example. Sam Pittman should not be above Josh Heupel. Pittman has coached one season. That is completely foolish. Heupel has a record of 28-8. The only reason Heupel is seen this low is because of a covid season. I don't understand why the covid year is held against him on this list but not held against coach O for example. Even in the covid year, yes he lost 4 games, but he lost all of them by one score except for BYU and he had 15 opt outs and multiple injuries. I don't think it's fair to hold that 2020 season against him.

My personal rankings would be:
1. Saban
2. Fisher
3. Mullen
4. Kirby

After this it becomes just a matter of opinion
5. Heupel
6. Kiffin
7. Coach O
8. Stoops
9. Harsin
10. Leach
11. Dorkowitz
12. Pittman
13. Lea
14. Beamer

Why did I put Heupel at 5? 1 because I'm a homer. 2. because I think Kiffin is the top coach in category outside of the top 4 and Heup has destroyed him head to head twice. I like Heup's resume as an OC and QB coach. 2 Heisman winning QB's and multiple draft picks. He's had top offenses at OU, Mizzou, and has had the top offense in football for 3 straight years at UCF. In 3 years at UCF, his offense failed to score 30 points only twice. That's absurd. Also, his head coaching record is very good at 28-8, and without the covid year, his head coaching record is 22-4 with losses to LSU by 8, Pitt by 1, Cincy by 3, and Tulsa by 3. Even when he's lost, that's how close it has been. If the covid year doesn't happen, Heup likely continues on top there at UCF and would have been one of the most desired coaches in the country.

Call me a homer all you want, but ranking Pittman above him is downright disrespectful. Pittman has one year as a head coach and wen 3-7

 

[TrippieRedd]

Do you agree?

1. Saban
2. Fisher
3. Mullen
4. O
5. Stoops
6. Smart
7. Liffin
8. Drinkwitz
9. Leach
10. Pittman
11. Heupel/Harsin
13. Beamer
14. Lea

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Do you agree?

Not really.

1. Saban
2. Jimbo
3. Mullen
4. Stoops
5. Leach
6. Smart
7. Kiffin
8. Ed O
9. Harsin
10. Heupel
11. Eli
12. Pittman
13. Lea
14. Beamer

 

[tnhunter 10]

I had a '90 4-Runner that shat the bed in Bozeman, MT after making it across the good old US and A. Threw a rod. 3.0L V6. I think it was one the first iterations after the perfection of the 4 cyl engine, which if you talk to truck guys is still sought after. (asked a guy in Kport if his 89 4wd was for sale other day, he laughed).

It was either in 92 or 93 they upgraded to 3.4L which of course was a fantastic engine.

My grandpa bought an 88 pickup brand new. I started driving it in 2000 and it’s still on the road.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

I would hire you before I would hire Kiffin.

Absolutely. I'm sure Monte is all washed up by now.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Do you agree?

Saban
Mullen
Smart
Fisher
Stoops
Big Ed
Rest dont matter.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Saban
Fisher
Mullen
Smart
Leach
Kiffin
Orgeron
Stoops
Drinkwitz
Harsin
Heupel
Pittman
Beamer
Lea

 

[Vols4us]

Do you agree?

That's it's stupid. Yep.

 

[Billy Antrim]

 

[ACvol3]

Ed O is the worst coach in the SEC. He caught lightning in a bottle one year. He’s going to crash and burn. Mark it down

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Ed O is the worst coach in the SEC. He caught lightning in a bottle one year. He’s going to crash and burn. Mark it down

He's going to be fired before then unless LSU gives him the will wade treatment. With all the accusations against him, unless they're proven untrue, I don't see how he stays

 

[ob79]

Would you hire him instead of Kiffin or Leach?

Strictly from a results perspective, he has more. That's a fact.

Whether he's a better coach than Leach or LK...he is not, IMO.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Saban
Fisher
Mullen
Smart
Leach
Kiffin
Orgeron
Stoops
Drinkwitz
Pittman
Harsin
Heupel
Beamer
Lea

There is literally no justification for putting Pittman above Heupel. I'd love to hear it. One year of coaching at 3-7 verses 28-8 including an undefeated season for Heupel

 

[ACvol3]

There is literally no justification for putting Pittman above Heupel. I'd love to hear it. One year of coaching at 3-7 verses 28-8 including an undefeated season for Heupel

Everybody loves Pittman for some reason

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I’d put Heupel right below Saban

 

[peaygolf]

There is literally no justification for putting Pittman above Heupel. I'd love to hear it. One year of coaching at 3-7 verses 28-8 including an undefeated season for Heupel

But, but, Heupel's never coached at a place like UT.......


Birds can fly, fish can swim, and Coaches can Coach. No matter where they are.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Ed O is a bad coach. He’s failed everywhere he’s been and he was dealt the best hand of any coach in a long time. Don’t forget LSU fans didn’t even want to hire him but the players loved him so the school caved. Stoops is a better coach than O imo.